Who was the pilot?
Hi Ian the pilots name was Sub/Lt J S Hornby. From New Zealand.
Thanks; and thanks also for doing this for a New Zealander.
Tinus – just by chance I came across this photo while looking for something else.
It’s from the NZ National Library Collection and the caption is ‘Stuka pilot shot down by NZ Army Bofors at Alamein July 1942’.
No name but probably could have been in Hans Diebl’s unit and he may be interested in seeing it.

Seem to recall reading somewhere that the Norwegian AF had some Northrop N-3PB floatplanes which were based in the UK then Iceland…they might have been used.
Also another thought is that the Dutch had some Fokker T.VIII-W floatplanes which made it to the UK and were supposedly used on clandestine missions to Norway.
Great aeroplane, thanks for posting…very nice to fly.
Listen to Amelia , she has already told us where she is
Too true…
Seem to recall that Hitler delaying the 262 production is a oft repeated myth and it was actually lagging technology.
Agree yakman – pity that a video is posted of that rather than it’s displays…
We were at the pumps getting some gas when it was towed out…
It certainly looked the works what with it’s shape, colour scheme and the pilot hunched forward ….made the Griffon powered Spitfire that went at the same time look positively benign…
Well – he was flying it beautifully at Dijon Darois the day he took it up to the show…




Fascinating thread…
There was a Meteor ‘incident’ from Manston in 1945 [?] involving a guy from a prominent Hong Kong expatriate family…can’t recall the details as all my stuff is in storage but it was reported in the ‘South China Post’ and I stumbled on it while researching some other aviation activities.
Anyone have details of this?
Hi Tim
This is the message on your Messages which you get when you click on ‘cotteswold’…
Hello My Dear Chap,
Please forgive my intrusion. I have noticed from your postings that you are a former RAF pilot of the war years. That is fairly well brilliant enough!
However, two recent posts of yours really set my eyebrows in an upwards direction. In one, you posted a photo with signature of Mikhail Gromov!! I wonder to myself, “how on earth did this bloke get such an item!?”
Then, I just looked at another thread where you have listed the aircraft which you have flown. On this sheet there is written on the left collumn, in Russian, “trainer” (Uchebniy, or учебний). Thus, I wonder, “how on earth did you know to spell that”? Indeed, I also wonder what aircraft was this trainer, assuming that you flew it?
May I be so bold to ask if you might have been with 151 Wing in Murmansk? If not, what was your connection to the USSR in the war years which allowed for these two extraordinary items to be possible?
Please forgive my curiosity, but you see my name is Erik Pilawskii, Soviet VVS historian. [you may see my website if you like http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ ] Your items have really quite piqued my interest. And I wonder what other fascinating things you have to offer?
Yours in History, and with my greatest respect. Erik
Hope this helps
Best regards
Ian
Dear Tim
Just read your biography ..take my hat off to you!!
Do you know that there is a letter from a Russian historian on your message board?
Best wishes
Ian
Some excellent photos on this link…scroll down
http://forum.pegase.tv/viewtopic.php?t=4286&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=690
TV surfing in the other night came across..’Amelia – The Final Flight’ where they had used a Beech18 in what was a reasonable movie which emphasised Mantz’s uneasiness with her experience to complete the flight. No idea when it was made as didn’t watch the credits…
Great shots – thanks flyernzl…took many ‘Box Brownies’ of them at Rongotai when I was a kid but photos long gone…
Later on in life I find a good friend’s wife is the daughter of the designer…