were Typhoons broken up at Aston Down? I know South Cerney & Lichfield were the main airfields where remaining Typhoons were broken up but I have heard stories over the years that there were so many aircraft on these airfields that sometimes incoming ones had to be diverted to nearby ones and were broken up on that site. Anyone have confirmation if this happened to Typhoons going into South Cereney and they were diverted to Aston Down? If I remember correctly there may have been some already based at Aston Down…perhaps these resident ones were scrapped there.
I know about this one being for sale…they had told me that the wings had already been done hence the 1/2 mil price tag. There are a couple of others that are for sale aswell!!
As for the engines…there always seems to be a discussion regarding various engines that would not be allowed to fly. The Sabre is one of these…as far as I am aware, and talking to people who have had dealings with the CAA, there is no particular reason why the sabre (or the Centaurus) would not be allowed to run and fly in the UK if you follow all of their requirements & requests. However the first one to do this would incur huge costs to get to this stage. Maybe one day…it is not impossible (just improbable)
I know it seems to be taking a long time but am I correct in thinking that the Tempest owned by Gerry Cooper is just waiting for the engine to be finally returned from the US? Last I saw and heard there was very little to do and they had even hung a spare engine to get the cowls exhausts completed…would this not be a candidate for the first to fly?
My interest is Typhoons but if only I had a spare 1/2 mil to buy one of the Tempests available lol
don’t get me started….there could be another Typhoon if parts were gathered together 🙂
Duxford Sabre (not mine but by Mathew Peet and Radu Dimitriu at http://www.msm.cam.ac.uk/phasetrans/2006/Duxford/Duxford.html). Donated by Cambridge University engineering department who I believe were responsible for the sectioning.
Just out the door on my way….
I think I know this cockpit. It is one of 2 Tempest MKV Series I cockpits in existence. It was complete when recovered by Ted Sinclair…however this one was stripped for Hendons Tempest MKII in return for parts and the loan of the chin cowling from their MKV (I think the parts were a spare rear fuselage!!). The other complete cockpit I believe has disapeared somewhere…it was loaned out and moved around and now no-one is admitting to know where it is!!!
I have seen the rear fuselage and tail from the Indian Tempest and I didn’t think it was too corroded even after it spell outdoors….must have been some strict criteria the RAF had for restoration. It was also found that this particular fuselage is exactly the same as the Typhoon….take off the fin fillet and you could bolt onto a Typhoon :). If the cockpit in the picture is the one I am thinking of then it may be for sale…don’t think it is owned by Barry just being stored. It has spent many a year outoors so it has survived quite well…and yes there is another Tempest MKV cockpit somewhere in the UK…no one seems to know where though.
The Tempest II(s) stored outdoors I think are the ones in store with Tempest II ltd….they have 2 themselves and don’t think the 2 in the pictures are the ones owned by them. I think these are the ‘bits’ that are for sale through flypast.
Anyone know where that second Tempest MKV cockpit is?
These are from a Tempest, MKII and MKV
132562/3->Fuel Vent System, clip and mounting plate
132564/5->Fuel Vent System, block and **** mounting
It took longer than I thought to filter through to here…didn’t want to appear to do a ‘sales pitch’ on someone else forum.
We were hoping to have completed everything for the engine for the launch but there was a last minute delay…10 years of research and talking to people I guess a few more weeks is not too bad 🙂
It is a fantastic example which is complete apart from the starter (which we can’t have in the UK anyway) and the exhaust stubs (which we have 18 examples of). She is a bit of a beast and makes RB the only Typhoon project ever to have had a restorable Sabre engine.
We have all the information for the cowls and tail and lots of data for the wings. In addition to the research I have done in the last 17 years and chasing the engine I have also been tracking wings. There are quite a few options and like everything else it is a matter of waiting a short while…
As for the legs…Denis put me on the path of 2 pairs of nos, thanks to him I managed to secure them a few years ago. In addition we have an additional 5 undercarriage legs (2 more pairs) with all the castings. I don’t have pics to hand of the nos units but will get posted on the site when I can.
In addition to the tons of parts we also have a cache of Sabre spares…about another 1/2 engine which we feel is enough to go ahead. Ideally a second example but until then we do have spares….
Things seems to be coming along rather quickly after a really long time..
We got lots of responses like that from the day…people didn’t realise quite how much there was for RB now. We would have needed a few more trucks to bring everything else!!!
We had hoped that it would give people an idea of how big a Typhoon actually is but you still didn’t get that from what you see, even with the Spitfires and Mustang surrounding her…
It was a privilege to have the veterans there and even more so to see them explaining their medals to some younger supporters.
The cockpit is the spurious ‘EJ922’, the reason I say spurious is because there was no identification and it was narrowed down previously based on the Brownhills/Lichfield connection and examples sold for scrap. According to records EJ922 should have gone back to Cunliffe Owen for sliding hood modification whereas this fuselage is obviously car door.
In answer to you Cees…RB will be a sliding hood as she would have been from the factory. It is interesting to note that all the cast items on Frame A are the same as RB even tough there is a difference with the hoods. The rear fuselage section is going to be used as a pattern for the framework over the radio compartment (which is missing from RB’s cockpit). The section also has the complete hand hold that is automatically opened when the step is pulled out and close when pushed back in.
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That’s just the bits we had on show for the launch 🙂 there is literally tons more!!! And more to come….sets RB apart from anything before!!
I am used to shedding a few tears over what has been scrapped or is hidden away and not to be seen again 🙁 I must be mad….
Thanks for the reply Andy, I know you are snowed so didn’t want to pester you for something you may well want to forget about…
It was always a long shot to see if something may have survived as they would have been as much of a pain to scrap in the 80’s as they would in the 40’s. Sometimes these things get spotted and picked up by others very quickly and perhaps it survived in private hands somewhere, if the scrappie still existed then they always remember if it was sold or scrapped. As an aside the museum apparently ‘never had anything other than the engine’ (according to the museum itself).
I have never seen a picture of the remains and I was hoping that someone may have one, it was never published in Flypast and I don’t think it was ever on display in the museum. If the main legs were still attached then there was a huge amount of wing still remaining…criminal 🙁
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