K-13 armed MiG-17F

Here is the reference on the K-13 armed MiG-17F:

10 May 1966, three North Vietnamese MiG-17s attack a SAR packet of two A-1Es Skyraiders and a HH-3C Jolly Green helicopter with two AA-2 Atolls IR missiles, near Yen Bai, about 85 miles northeast of Hanoi. One missile was fired at the HH-3 and one was fired at the Skyraiders, both missiles failed to track all the way to their intended targets. MiG driver must have been out of the Atoll’s envelope. Description: CPT Robert D. Furman, pilot of an HH-3, performed the deepest successful rescue into North Vietnam, to date, when he rescued a downed F-105 pilot, CPT Martin H. Mahot, 80 miles northwest of Hanoi (“MiGs Miss First Shots With Air-Air Missiles”, The Washington Post, May 12, 1966, p. A1 (NC); “Mekong Arms Ship destroyed”, The Times (London), May 12, 1966, p. 1 (NC); Neil Sheehan, “MiG’s Fire First Missiles, But They Miss U.S. Planes”, The New York Times, May 12, 1966, pp. A1 & A17; “Vietnam Communique”, Air Force Times, May 25, 1966, Vol. XXVI, No. 41, p. 4; “World Affairs”, “Vietnamese War”, Facts On File, Vol. XXVI, No. 1341, July 7-13, 1966, p. 249; “World Affairs”, “Vietnamese War”, Facts On File, Vol. XXVI, No. 1333, May 12-18, 1966, p. 169; “Industry Observer”, Aviation Week & Space Technology, June 20, 1966, p. 23; Jack Foisie, “Air, Navy Units Destroy Ship With Red Arms”, The Los Angeles Times, May 12, 1966, pp. A1 & A11; “MiGs Fire Missiles”, Aviation Week & Space Technology, May 16, 1966, p. 37).

F-104 in assassination attempt

Does anyone have any information on this event??

18 November 1972, during a coup and assassin attempt against King Hussein of Jordan, a RJAF F-104 fired rockets at King Hussein”s running helicopter. King Hussein was wounded in the leg by rocket shrapnel. The F-104 was shot down by other RJAF F-104 Starfighters, killing the pilot, Major Talal al-Khatib.

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Incidents

About Mi-4 and F-102 incident and Mi-24D crash later, I must search some source…

Rumcajs: Do you have any more information on these events???

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Need LiveLeak downlaod capability

The missile fired by the Predator was a Stinger:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/25/tech/main551126.shtml

“Even so, military officials and analysts say the $2.5 million Predator’s first dogfight in December heralds a new role.

Lilly said the Air Force was “baiting” the Iraqi air force by flying Predators over southern Iraq and fleeing when Iraqis scrambled their jets.

“Then they put Stinger missiles on a Predator. They took it up and the Predator didn’t run away,” he said.

The Predator and an Iraqi MiG 25 fired air-to-air missiles at each other. Lilly said the Stinger missed when its heat-seeker got diverted by the MiG’s missile. The Iraqi missile downed the Predator.”

I’d like to download this vid, anyone k now how to do it with Liveleak???

Sounds like that could be the Achilles Heel of the F-22 Raptor.

Its so good, so superior to its contempories that its pilots can easily get complacent, make silly mistakes, and get themselves blown out of the sky!. Interesting and definitely one more strand in support of the UCAV in the manned/unmanned debate!

However, real combat kills = REAL Kill Removal!!!!!

SE Air Combat Events

Gentlemen:

We still have not posted any SE actual air combat events, nor any comments on the SE versus Yugo Mi-8!!!!

Any Cierva Autogiros shot down in aerial combat?

Any Cierva Autogiros shot down in aerial combat?

Stinger versus Foxbat

Before being shot down the Predator launched a Stinger.

So what happened to the Stinger??? Did it track to the Foxbat??