Man the Hornets are HOT!;)
Over the rafale! 😮
Quiet OBVIOUS isn’t it?
Typhoon would have been a FAR better design….
:o:rolleyes:
Have they arrived in Switzerland?
True but designing a truely versatile (not like the F22) 5th gen fighter in the eigthies was out of french financial reach.
Makes you wonder what would have been had Dassault kept in the yet to be EF programme. Money and technology wise. Ahwell
Oh, I get it. The forum needs someone to go to wiki and pull 120’s length
Gosh…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-120_AMRAAM
Weight 335 lb (152 kg)
Length 12 ft (3.66 m)
Diameter 7 in (178 mm)Look how helpful I am.
Again, mainly it was the F-22 bay length. But was the comment really needed orginally? I don’t think so.
All this talk of max.sustained turn rates. Unless the merge is at those specific speeds/altitudes none of that data can be used to argue x vs y. such as x does 23, y does 24.
That is the max, since he gives the max for the F-15`s and even the Eurofighter won`t go beyond 24 Deg/s.
The Su-35BM has to be very close to the F-22 and perhaps it matches it
Your EF turn rate is wrong 😉
About the su-35bm being less draggy than the su-30mki. Would the elimination of the canards/twin stick canopy really give it an excellent performance increase? really?
They perm banned you on Google?
No, just hoped someone could give the figures (especially the F-22 bay length). Guess not everyone is as helpful as you, oh wait, you made another sarcastic post, just what this forum needs.
Probabley. B301 was is probably is the testbed for the AESA radar.
hmm, could cause a bit of trouble for Eurofighter.
typhoon1
What you are talking about seems to be the boundary layer traps or diffusers, even the F15 is equiped with them.
Diffusers are allowed to slow down air mainly which does aid compression, but not mainly for supersonic compression. The shock created underneath the fuselage itself compresses air (ignoring the laminar flow), this increasing with velocity. I have done some work on ramjets myself, this (as said mainly applied to Scramjets) can account for 70% (mach 5+) of air compression and velocity reduction. Now how effectively it is used on the EF/Rafale at low supersonic-mach 2 speeds to me is uncertain, but the idea the intakes compressing all the air and the mass flow rate is limited to the intake structure is not necessarily true.
So now we know the approximate length of at least one of PAK-FA’s w/bays.
How long are the -22’s bays? Or better still how long is an amraam?
Radar waves may propagate on the skin of a control surface and/or on the airframe skin and bounce back when they reach the trailing edge of the surface. When the trailing edge is perpendicular or near perpendicular to the traveling direction of the incident signal, the waves will bounce back to the emitting radar. With the sawtooth, the skin waves are reflected away from the emitter direction.
I suppose care must be taken that the sawtooth pattern does not to create diffraction which would be even worse.
I was thinking along those lines. Interesting approach, I wonder why Eurofighter or Saab have not chased the same idea. Like you say, for example possible diffraction, may have been one of a number of drawbacks the latter two concluded. who knows 😉
I think it’s quite clear now. The Swiss must have appreciated the show :
End of evaluation.
39 flights, 60 flight hours.
So the Swiss trials were done with AESA?
Quick questions about the Rafale’s RS reduction techniques.
Does anyone know how those unusual “saw-tooth” ridges along the canards/wings/belly help to reduce the RS?
Yesterday, i tested my time travel machine. I sat in, and switched on the system, so as to see the future…
And the future was exactly the day when Typhoon will leave Switzerland… On this day (in the future), i turned my PC on, and read an unsigned article about Typhoon. I couldn’t save it, or copy the link (it was in the future). So, i’ll do my best to remember it. It should not be to hard, as i “was” shocked by some expressions and reported “facts” :
As a xenophobic and nationalistic Rafale fanboy, as biased as i am, and unable to admit the simple truth, i couldn’t bear reading it further, so, i quickly decided to went back in the present…
Frightening… 😮
hmm took that a little too far didn’t we :p