Clearly, the F-35 critics will believe almost anything negative about the F-35. Yet, disregard anything out of hand from highly experienced “Test Pilot” with first hand knowledge! As I have said from the start the people with true access to the F-35 program speak highly of the Lightning. Which, includes the best minds from the JSF Partner Nations and some of the best test pilot in the world. Which, speaks volumes in my book.

yes scoots but you should not be ‘blinded’ by claims, some things are just common sense. I’m talking about the typhoon claims, the SH comparison holds alot of water however, just about any fighter can kinematically outperform the E/F

You guys make we laugh. Who says the Super Hornet will out perform the F-35??? Yet, when I provide an experts that have access to both aircraft you disregard it out of hand! I provided a quote from a highly experienced Test Pilot. That has thousand of flight hours in the Hornets, Vipers, Raptors, Typhoons, and now the F-35 Lighting. Of course he and Lockheed Martin must be lying??? Funny, why isn’t Boeing lying??? Plus, can anybody provide a source that has access to the F-35 and claims its performance is lower than advertised???

Scooter, stop making me laugh all the time, please!

The only way some of his claims will be settled is after RAF pilot comparisons when in service etc…that, or common sense but whatever. Not a credible source but at least some context;http://www.businessinsider.com/the-f-35-will-never-beat-the-eurofighter-2013-2.

If a typhoon can supercruise at M1.4, with 6AAM and two tanks, can out accelerate just about any fighter (past figures M0.9, 20k ft better than F-22), bar SOME F-22 regimes surely it casts a shadow of doubt about a fighter which had transonic acceleration figures (which were never meant to be outstanding, MUST NOT approach F-22) extended by 40+ seconds in order to achieve specification. Something just doesn’t add up here. Plus Flynn’s pay check might take a hit if he explained how the F-35 did not manage to cope with ‘4th’ gen aircraft performance figures, that after the first few days of war and tomahawk missile poundings could do 90% of the F-35’s job just fine.

USAF should have gone with FB-22’s and let the rest sort itself out, Europe should have designed their own jet. 1 aircraft can simply not replace every other aircraft in existence, it will have pitfalls, there is no single sided coin my friend

Quote from a former Typhoon Test Pilot!

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Scooter, you are always entertaining. :very_drunk:

Could you be perhaps be less cryptic, i’m not understanding what it is that i’m missing?

We discussed balance in designs and you offered a scenario which you stated was unlikely; in response to my comment on that you pointed me towards the Tornado as an adaptable and flexible design.

I don’t follow how the nature of the Tornado design links to the Typhoon design and why that shows the Typhoon as being balanced?

(I’m not saying the Typhoon is not balanced, just in case anybody who is likely to have a tanturm reads this.)

The Tornado was similar to the Typhoon in that it was predominately oriented around a specific role with other capabilities, whilst good, secondary none the less. The Typhoon being AtA focussed and full blown strike secondary. (Just need to speak to a few chaps flying the things and its obvious where its priorities lie). However you must remember as long as the Tornado is complementing the Typhoon UK/Germany there is not the urgent need for expanded capability.

What kind of range figures does the Rafale get in carrying 2 Apache, mica’s, 3 2000L tanks and CFT’s? It looks like its eaten one or two too many pain au chocolat 🙂

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canada—Air/Northrop-(Canadair)-CF-116D/0408985/L/&sid=d7a6da7453f6fe5a99fbd2cbf6691398

friendly,

Etienne

Thank you, never seen it in that camo before 🙂

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Awesome pic, can I ask which airforce is that?

Don’t forget that even if the Su35 turns on its radar & actually picks up the Rafales in front of him, he wouldn’t know if there is any other foe listening in the area as well.

Nic

yes i agree, the string is unlimited……