It means, being a smaller frame, whatever small/medium stuff you put on Rafale, it sticks out/protrudes/magnifies itself as a huge/large stuff compared to the payload of same size if put on Su-35.

It might look good in photos and videos giving that awesome & fearful feel on the payload carried, but it may not be of that help to the aircraft w.r.t cutting through the fluids. JMT

I think your first statement is a lot more complex than that. Two points, rafale’s ordinance is much closer together, su-35 being more isolated. Surely widely spaced ordinance promotes larger rcs returns than more compact designs?

Second, look how much all the missiles stick out from the leading edges of the su-35 vs rafale’s delta wing hiding most, plus rafale’s mica storage is far more conformal than any of the ata stations on the su-35. Size is always not the rule in rcs return. Well designed ordinance positioning contributes to rcs reduction, the extent to which rafale employs this I am unsure but certainly mica is positioned well. where as the su-35 still retains the same weapon positioning as su-27 series.

Finally none of these jets has a low rcs with a decent load, whether su-35 with a million missiles or rafale carrying 3 2000l tanks. But IN MY OPINION a rafale with 6 mica has a lower rcs section than a su-35 with six missiles.

It’s not like Rafale can stand the same and fly back.

Unless titanium bathtubs widespread to other aircrafts the chances of surviving to a direct impact from any relatively big warhead like the ones on medium range missiles are close to none.

Well, obviously. :confused:

. And let the Pak-Fa follow in its wake with Passive sensors. It would be a nasty surprise for any other fighter wings escorting AWACS/Tankers/Bombers if they chose to intercept.

how would that be a surprise if su-35’s had engaged previous? would it not contradict the surprise potential of t-50…?

but if you carry 6-10 missiles your performance will be reduced alot , it as simple as that , mach 1.5 is when it only carry very light weight , small drag :dev2:

performance depletions regards modest loads of external missiles approx 6 is very airframe specific, see eurofighter for example.

Su-35 is very powerful, the weight not being the significant factor rather the large drag penalty of the russian missiles

I do not understand your passion for Pods? You know that aircraft like the F-22/F-35/Rafale/PAK FA are integrating their RWR/iRST/ECM/LRW/jammer… in the airframe just to avoid to take a Pods ? And you know why ?

btw the rail on the wingtip of the Rafale are not just a missile rail but a part of the SPECTRA, they are just better integrated in the airframe than the “Pods” on the SU-35.

Its falling on deaf ears 🙁

You can put 4 R-77 between engines in Su-35 and it wont stick out. after launching RVV-BD from wing tips at greater range.
it has pods as given on wing tips. On Rafale anything of substance attach to it sticks out. Su-35 is like MIG-31 and certainly not like Rafale. otherwise whats the point of putting more power than Su-27.

nor does tight near conformal mica storage on the rafale. You have no idea how the rcs if affected within the gap between the intakes, who is to say the combined effect magnifies any radar return, certainly not you.

pods on the wingtips are huge rcs reflectors when viewed side on, specifically the circler cross-section!

Anything of substance sticks out of the su-35! what kind of retarded argument are you making haha? 😀

The last sentence deserves some kind of key publishing forum moronic statement award.

thats the problem. Rafale does not have usefull rcs advantage. There is no electronic pods integral of Rafale design. how much smaller R-77 is compared to the pods.
Every things sticks out from Rafale. and Rafale will be flying at lower altitudes than Su-35. the same disadvantage smaller AWACS.

Everything comparatively sticks out of the su-35 as well? Your always imposing initial conditions of altitude as a given :confused:

So for you it’s not a problem for the SU-35 having a bigger RCS than Rafale because SU-35 have more powerful Radar, but for an AWACS it’s not an advantage over the SU-35 to have a more powerful Radar because they have bigger RCS ? 😀

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