No propbs guys. Whats interesting is that its not a block 5 aircraft with only 8g limits. However the RAF solo demo this year has been using an FGR.4.
Excellent display at Airpower 09, really shows its power.
[QUOTE=arthuro;1425269]Ah ! the usual Jacko’s spin…:D
and he already downed several Typhoon in DF (according to other persons who talked to him, he told me about oneQUOTE]
I’m not trying to flame or anything like that but did you catch any information from anyone during Le Bourget concerning when AdA Rafales did some unspecified DACT with GAF typhoons?
And you’re wrong. 😀
😮
RAFALE demo in HD from the paris airshow 2009 :
two parts :
Is that demo flown by Dassault’s test pilot, or is it the airforce demo? I’m guessing Dassault 😉
Two words:
RED ARROWS 😀
awesome idea! 😀
If this turns out to be true it is would be a disappointment. It’s not new that Italy insisted to keep the MSA version for commonality reasons. T3A won’t be delivered before 2013 at all and the work didn’t began just recently, but years ago, albeit as a tech demonstration programme concerning the Typhoon (CAESAR). Back in 2006 it was said CAESAR would be almost production ready, though the aim was for a newer and more capable Captor-E. With Selex also working on Vixen series, including the involvment into the ES/05A Raven there might be some leverage.
But for the moment we just can wait and I’m certain we’ll know more in the near future when the T3A contract is finally signed.
Agree totally, time will tell. Things like this are just too unpredictable at this chaotic time.
Just like to point out the typhoons MMI and Rafales for that matter is on a whole new level to latter F-15 derivatives. Quite a big selling point if you know how importnat it actually is 😉
What, do you want me to google them for you? Look up the likes of Rafale, F-35, Typhoon etc. They already have distinctive advatages over the F-15 Silent eagle. Look them up.
chap don’t bother wasting yout time 🙂
JWCook : do you think they are preparing a deployment to Afghanistan with those small GBUs ?
I thought they were having a hard time intergrating the new bombs, something to do with typhoons software causing problems.
Which block is doing this RAF display?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chy5hE-G_BA
It seems to do some very tight turns (later on in the vid), greater than previous years at least 😮
Sukhios always loose in simulations 😉
lol true, maybe thats why sukhoi has never, to my knowledge, produced any public results from simulations of its own.
What I’d like for Rafale is:
An option for a towed decoy
An working HMD on a Rafale demonstrator to show export customers, probably with a DVI demonstrator
A flying 90KN demonstrator to validate performance gains
Integration of Denel’s A-darter and R-darter which would certainly appeal to the Brasilian air force, and maybe Derby and Python V
I’d agree with that, though also add CFT’s so Dassault can use its range to an advantage even more. I’m not too sure but I assume the ALA has no requirement for CFT’s?
Oh also, a twin 90KN Rafale we be a sight to behold.:eek:
WOW, on one hand I am “ignorant” of the Typhoon Performance. Then the next sentence you make the unbelieve claim that the Typhoon can carry TWO EXTERNAL FUEL TANKS AND NO LESS THAN EIGHT AIR TO AIR MISSILES. ALL WITH NO PERFORMANCE PENALTY!
Talk about laughable………….and I am the ignorant one? PLEASE:p
I tried to stay away from this circus of a forum, i really did but this one takes the cake.
If wing commander Nigel whateverhisnameis had said I could believe that he either really thought that was the case or another Typhoon fan boy was making things up. But for you to quote him as saying that there is is just sheer idiocy. What? Has Typhoon found some way to defy the laws of physics? Are you trying to tell me that two tanks and a gaggle of missiles hanging off of a wing impose absolutely no drag penalty?
Yes the Typhoon has wonderful performance. Yes the Typhoon will outperform fighters designed and built 30 years earlier in some categories. But now here is the big but. It does not change the game. It’s margins of performance in the areas that it excels are not enough to overcome an outdated radar and medium range missiles. It is still going to come down to training and the circumstances of the engagement. It is not a quantum leap ahead like F-22 and F-35. Bolt ons and upgrades to F-16 and F-15 make them easily a match and the Super Hornet in many ways it’s contemporary is miles ahead of it in things that matter.
Write something intelligent and back it with with facts and I may reply. Otherwise don’t bother.
OBVIOUSLY, he did not mean in the strictest sense. I don’t understand how you two could not interpret a simple statement, quite astonishing. Why are you even on this forum if all you do is make trouble and “rubbish” threads?
nhampton, I’m pretty sure a quote from a chap flying the plane is some evidence.
Well done guys, another awesome thread. x2 ignored.
Do you really thing a Typhoon with external fuel tanks can out turn a clean “F-16″……
Scooter. Reading this statement above really, truly highlights your ignorance for the Typhoon.
A quote from Wg Cdr LoI Bennet OC 3 (F) Squadron;
“The fact that I can fly throughout the full flight envelope with two tanks and eight missiles with no reduction in performance, gives us the key edge.“
I think it would be worth while for you to fly to Europe, see an typhoon, then eat your own words. And the rest of you ignorant “Euro-canard bashing” chaps.:)
I like, even if you do believe ridiculous claims like yours, how the Typhoon has dominated any US teen 4th gen fighter it has come across yet. Makes you think doesn’t it?