If i had to specify one thing the claims on cost are the major fail for the F35.
Note it is not that it is going to cost what it is going to cost; it is that the claims were that the capabilities could be delivered for substantially less than they will be.
But that’s my point! All aircraft projects usually become more expensive than they were planned for – why should F-35 be treated any different?
And even if the F-35 was supposed to have been some sort of cost cutting exercise, well then perhaps it hasn’t been much of a success – but perhaps thats more a function of unrealistic, pie-in-the-sky expectations. But the poor F-35 is not alone in this matter, certainly not among the big-ticket aircraft projects around the world (or among civil engineering for that matter).
Oh but it is applied equally ww.
The issue with the F35 has been and still is to a certain extent the claims being made for it; that it time and time again has failed to live up to.
Thus comment on the missing of these targets is completely justified and accurate.
Costs, dates, abilities being just some of the items either completely missed or yet to be proven.As far as i’m aware, other than some rather silly political claims prior to first flight, the T50 has had nowhere near the same level of claims made for it.
The F35 is being judged versus the claims that have been made for it; it is largely a failure versus these at this point.
To squeal that your beloved F35 is not being treated equally is rather wide of the mark.The T50 has not had the same level of hype thus it has less to be judged against.
Bit harsh on the F-35 – I’m still not sure why exactly the F-35 should be a fail – but you did mention something about costs and and dates. By the same yardstick would you consider the Sydney Opera House or the Panama Canal as failures?
BTW, there were, in fact, some pretty over-optimistic claims made about PAK FA. If some people where to be believed, it should be entering service sometime next year…
I counted 100 “write-offs” in Aviation-safety.net (49 with fatalities).
http://aviation-safety.net/database/dblist.php?field=typecode&var=312%&cat=%1&sorteer=datekey&page=1
The Il-62 had a few problems as well, Polish LOT lost 2 of them, for example.
Now I know the source of your avatar picture!:)
Now I know the source of your avatar picture!:)
Watched Disney-Pixar’s UP last night, a lot of aviation interest in it – especially the airship ‘Spirit of Adventure’ – “equal in length to 20 prohibition paddywagons put end to end”!!:eek:
(makes a change from comparing it in size to football fields and London Double-decker buses)
Watched Disney-Pixar’s UP last night, a lot of aviation interest in it – especially the airship ‘Spirit of Adventure’ – “equal in length to 20 prohibition paddywagons put end to end”!!:eek:
(makes a change from comparing it in size to football fields and London Double-decker buses)
China-Serbia nexus?
Seriously, The F-117, and its LO technology, was designed in the 1970s – does the Chinese aerospace industry still have a lot to learn from such a “clunker”?:confused:
All this talk of smokey engines reminds me of the problems of F-4 jet in Vietnam. The J-79 was a lot more smokey than the NK-1 on MiG-17. American pilots couldn’t spot the MiG-17 till it was up to close. I think later versions of the J-79 produced a lot less smoke, but it was a redesign solution, I don’t think it had much to do with the fuel.
Who told you Ils had a better safety record than Tus? Explain?
does HAL have the ability to produce the MiG-27 on their own like the Jaguar
The IAF would probably get rid of the MiG-27 if they could – have you seen its safety record?
The MiG-23/MiG-27 airframe itself is quiet an impressive basic design – certainly no worse than the SAAB Viggen or Mirage F1. But it has been badly let down by its R-29 powerplant, which has the unfortunate tendency to conk out at the wrong time. The IAF had a proposal to replace the R-29 with the AL-31F – but that plan seemed to have fizzled out…
WELL, I never ever paid, and I read it – but I registered well over 5-6 years ago – maybe that’s the difference?:confused:
That’s interesting to read. Why does the SSJ have such good high altitude performance? Usually good high alt. performance is a product of engine design – does the SSJ really have better high alt. performance compared to the Embraer -why?
Well they’ve certainly made leaps and bounds then (which is nice to see) – in 2006 (still a few years ago) fighter aviation were still on 20-25 hours. Fact remains, a VVS fighter pilot may have achieved no more than 300 hours throughout the last decade, I hope those rationalisation plans get into effect soon.
or to quote one of the commentators below the article:
Богадельню разгоняют – Игорь (24.11.2008 16:21)
Конечно, лучше 50 тыс. пилотов с налетом по 3 часа каждый, чем 500 пилотов с налетом 300 часов каждый.
Войны все-равно не будет. Зато столько здоровых мужиков трудоустроено.
🙂
Key forums slow to load?:eek:
Try reading a newspaper online – Telegraph, Guardian, etc – now that’s slooooowww…