Some info on the MiG-15s supplied to Albania from China:

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/albania/af/types/ft-2.htm
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/albania/af/types/mig-15.htm

Space shuttle system is, despite the 2 losses your referring to, is still, one of the safest ways of getting people into space and back again.:cool:

3. Good combat record, with victories against F-14s, F-4s, F-5s, F-100s, Mig-21s! Plus Su-22s after the end of the Cold War.

When did the Mirage F1 shoot down an F-100 (Super Sabre?)?:confused:

By no means am I saying that the MD-11 is a dangerous aircraft.
I had a look at the aircraft’s record on the Aviation Safety Network website, and while 3 aircraft have been destroyed on approach and landing almost within the space of 1 year, this only causes the question to arise, why has it taken almost 15 years for the alleged PIO problem to come to light – if that is indeed the reason for the accidents?

http://aviation-safety.net/database/type/type.php?type=353

J Boyle, you can’t compare the accident rate of airliners developed and flying in the 1960s with airliners introduced 30 years later.
Just look at the safety record of the Boeing 707 in the 1960s (over 30 losses, most of them fatal) with that of the Boeing 777 in the last 15 years (1 loss, no fatalities).
The skies were just more dangerous in those days!

We seem to have some feedback on the abilities of the UCAVs from those people who are, in their own way, some of the best experts on COIN aircraft – The Taliban.
The seem to be very impressed with the US drones, causing a lot of difficulties for them. Can one safely say that a good loitering abilities, good sensors, and being very discrete are the most important qualities of a agood COIN aircraft, certainly more important than maximum payload or battle damage survivability, who knows?:confused:

Taliban says US drone attacks ‘temporarily’ hindering insurgency

Spokesman says increased use of unmanned aircraft has forced change in operations, but drummed up new recruits

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/23/taliban-drone-attacks-pakistan

I thought the MiG-27 had recently been temporarily grounded? They were certainly grounded in 2005/2006, the IAF are not at all happy with its safety record – it’s worse than the MiG-21’s!:eek:
I believe the Indian air force are on the verge of retiring the type, despite having recently modernised the type at great expense.