It’s as fast as the VVS is prepared to pay for, most likely. If there were problems with keeping up with domestic demand, they could hardly have accepted the order from China.

Are you sure that order from China is going through – has it been confirmed yet?

Same with Su-24 which were modded with fixed intakes and are unable to reach the quoted speeds anymore

I thought the Su-24 was designed with fixed intakes from the very beginning? Or at least very few, if any, production Su-24s came with variable inlets?

no, Vietnam War ended in mid-1975
Syria received its first MiG-23s in 1973

The air war (air-to-air combat at least) over Vietnam was pretty much over by the end of 1973.

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With introduction of Zaslon, N001 and Zhuk with look down/shoot down, TSR-2 would have been retired and share museum space beside the F-111, which was retired for that reason.

In which case why hasn’t the USAF also retired their F-15Es?

I don’t like Western style aircraft and even I think its awesome.

What on earth is a ‘Western style aircraft’?

Is this photo for real?:confused:

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What is the point/goal of this thread? Serbia is still recovering from the Balkan conflict. It takes time to recover. Slovakia peacefully broke away from the Czech Republic and downsized its military due to there being no credible threat.

Friday night is always a good time for creating the more “unorthodox” threads. It’s good for the vintners and Brewing industry – unsuspecting forum members log in to read some intelligent discussion only to find themselves driven out to the nearest bar and Kniepe to escape the weirdest fantasies and drivel. I think Y-20 bacon/Hotdog could be the paid shill of Diageo or Heineken or some other alco firm…:confused:

– there will be no other alternative to F-35 for NATO/western countries

– both should be more affordable than F-35

– both will be full NATO compatibile

– both will use results of European R&D and can help and bring benefits (and employees) for European industry in many areas (SAAB, Eurojet etc.)

– many European countries will need relatively cheap and affordable replacement for 4th generation fighters in 2030s and later, for example: Finland, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, (Germany? :rolleyes:)…

(BTW both fighters could have good export potential: KF-X/IF-X especially in Southeast Asia and Pacific region – Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore… – and TF-X in Middle East and Gulf states like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan, Morocco and…Azerbaijan of course.)

Geo

What makes you think they will be cheaper? Is Mitsubishi F-2 a cheap airplane, compared to say a Eurocanard or F-16?