and sukhoi.ru has now, i don’t want to use a bad term, em.. it wont load.
Apparently it’s moments away from takeoff…
Canopy closed, taxied to runway.
Best wishes to everyone who put their work into this bird.. and best of luck to the pilot! I hope it all goes well.
I’d rather it sit in a hanger for another year than have anything go wrong now.
Supposedly *on* the runway.
Don’t do this to us.
Gazera.ru, a Russian newspaper claims the first flight of PAK FA would be as early as March citing a high placed source in the ‘military-industrial complex’. The source is cited to be aware of the situation in Sukhoi.
http://www.gzt.ru/topnews/politics/-istrebitelj-pyatogo-pokoleniya-podnimetsya-v-/285716.html
At this point this info should be taken with caution. It’s too early to make any conclusions yet.Quote from the link:’Истребитель пятого поколения, полет которого был анонсирован в прессе уже на пятницу, на самом деле не поднимется в воздух раньше марта. Как сообщил GZT.RU источник в руководстве российского оборонно-промышленного комплекса, знакомый с ситуацией на ОКБ «Сухой», целый ряд систем самолета еще не протестирован. Напомним, что «Сухой» уже много лет готовит перспективный авиационный комплекс фронтовой авиации (ПАК ФА), также известный как Т-50 и изделие 701.’
A whole range of systems hasn’t been fully tested yet; they also cite the engines as a major cause.
“The engines arrived at the plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in December last year, they are installed on the flight model, but it has not been fully tested on the ground. Real time take-off – no earlier than March, “- said the source GZT. RU.
Is this disinformation? Or.. is what we’ve been fed this week been the disinformation?
Oh well.

For idle discussions sake:
If large parts of the manufacturing machinery had been kept to this day – how much would it cost to manufacture new F-104’s in comparison to a modern fighter?
Would it still be considerably cheaper?
Unlike the armchair experts talking about other aircraft? Until some sort of specifications are released, it’s all speculation anyhow.
Sorry, I should have made it more clear – I agree with you. What happens in all the other threads will begin to happen in this one.
As Flex says, this thread has actually been quite friendly, with people drawn together out of simple curiosity about a long awaited aircraft.
The bad news is the reported unit cost of $100m is both premature and optimistic. The good news is at this premature & optimistic price tag (considering you’re factoring in cheaper Russian personel, material & manufacturing costs)- it’s going to be a very serious piece of kit!!
Goodnight everybody, sleep tight!! (unless your name’s Sergei Bogdan).
I’d wager Sergei is eating his breakfast right now… maybe in a meeting with engineers.
Seriously, this to me is akin to the feeling before a crucial world cup game.
As I type, dawn has long since broken over the airfield, it’s day… the T-50 sits in its hanger under the watchful eye of some engineers. Is it going to come out and play?
Put us out of our misery Sukhoi… let it fly!
Hysteria grabbing the forums me thinks!
Just wait… just wait until the armchair experts see the T-50, if you want to see some hysteria.
X, will infer Y. People will state, with great self importance that they know someone, somewhere, who can state, with absolute authority that Z is wrong. Clearly Z is a fatal flaw.
Then some organisation somewhere, will run a simulation, with data of dubious quality, which states that the airframe, their nation has an interest in, has a capability to detect the T-50 at 75km, quite easily… and journalists from that country will suggest that such a capability is actually quite a conservative estimate.
And their next generation missiles? Wellll… I’m glad you asked. The T-50 wont stand a chance.
And on.
And on.
5th Generation Fighter #3, PAK-FA, T-50… let’s see it Russia – I’m sick with anticipation 😉
Btw with all the excitement and expectations , wouldnt be awful to see a post tommorow morning saying ” Nope , not today , TOMMOROW!” 😀
I am expecting precisely that!
So I’m actually not banking on seeing *anything* tomorrow.
I’ve never looked forward to an event such as this before, but this is just so damned interesting:
It appears to me, to be one of the ultimate expressions of Russia re-emerging as a powerhouse of design and ingenuity, after far too many years in the doldrums. 🙂
(btw, is everyone else expecting both this and paralays forum to crash within about 30 seconds of the first published photos? 😮 )
Worth noting: Komsolosk-On-Amur is 10 hours ahead of UTC, so a flight at say 1pm there, would be 3am UTC, 4am CET, 10pm EST
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=261
In other words, it’s possible, if all goes well and the PAK-FA isn’t the greatest hoax of all time – that we could be looking at pictures over breakfast tomorrow morning in Europe.
Komsomolsk-On-Amur
Thursday 28 January
Maximum day temperature -17oC
Day weather 
Pressure (mm Hg) 748
Wind (speed, direction) 3 m/s SW
http://www.hmn.ru/en/index1.php?code=4&value=31561
*ignores speculation on what “conservative” is in relation to*
Good luck with everything Sukhoi, imagine how the pilot feels going to sleep tonight 🙂
If it turns out to be an Su-27 with canted tail, or Rafale (lol) – I will quite possibly cry.
I hope so, but still, it’s nothing extraordinary since other fighters in its weight class could do so almost for the last 30 years (in the case of the F-16)
Are you Scooter?
Also:
Swedish defense plans include a concept known as “BAS 90”, which envisions dispersal of aircraft in groups of four to six to “road bases” defined around specially reinforced lengths of highway with associated dispersal areas. This scheme dictates the Gripen’s short-field capabilities. The Gripen can take off and land in less than 600 meters (2,000 feet).
http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avgrpn.html
http://www.vectorsite.net/avgripen.html