Sorry, ashamed to say I have NO internal shots of ANY Canberra! Very difficult to get in and take decent shots, so have never attempted it.
Try these, although not representative of an in service aircraft the front cockpit is near enough B6
We are still trying to find a suitable engine with the right paperwork, until we aquire an engine we are firmly grounded. Any leads to an airworthy Avon 109 with all the correct log cards and records would be very much appreciated.
Next year sees the 60th anniversary of the first flight of the Canberra and it would be a great shame to miss celebrating this unique event.
I had 2 Canberra covers made by Cambria Covers, one for WK163 at Coventry and one I took out to Temora for WJ680, both are still working well at opposite ends of the weather spectrum!! Fully water proof and very good at keeping the summer heat out in Oz.
So did the Lightning, I haven`t heard of fire issues with that a/c either. Must be something unique to the Belvedere / Gazelle engine installation.
Pete
The Canberra PR9, Hunter FGA 9 and the Javlin in particular all suffered from Avpin fires on start up, the PR9 was easy to deal with as the fire was usually outside of the engine nacelle but the Javlin just burned!
Nope, the Canberra doesn’t – it’s confined to the Hunter F6 or FGA9 and only if they have the right mod. state of gun ports.
Having been around Canberra’s since the mid sixties and flying in them to the present day I can asure you they make a wonderful blue note. Terry Cairns final PR9 display at Marham was a fine example.
The Canberra, irrespective of mark, also produces “the Blue Note” they have no guns but similar Avon engines to the Hunter, the noise becomes appearent at fairly high speed with the engines throttled back.
G-BVWC (WK163) was built by AV Roe at Woodford.
We received our new Canberra B2s in early 1952 and they had Maxaret brake systems. It was also stated in the Vol 1.
Ken
Maxaret units were introduced with the 21 inch wheels not the 19 inch fitted to the “light weight” B2,PR3,T4 and derivitaves, ie T17,TT18etc. Heavy weight B6,PR7, B(I)8,PR9 all had 21 inch wheels. My 231 OCU course notes, dated October 1963 state that “ALL 231 OCU Canberra are without Maxaret units”.
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Although no longer Napier powered, former world altitude holder Napier Scorpion Canberra WK163 is still very much in existance at Coventry although waiting for a new Avon engine at the moment.
There is also at least one at the former AWRE Woomara, Australia
The 3 (not 4) Vulcans were XH498, which had the accident at Wellington Airport and made a forced landing at Ohakea, XH502 and XH499 which was OC 617 sqdns personnal mount. They were accompanied by an RAF Brittania for the ground crew and the Beverley for the spares and ground equipment.
I have several photographs of the detachment a various points around the globe as my father was the crew chief of XH499. I will try to scan and post when I have a few minutes.
We are evidently talking about different systems here Scorpion. The early Canberra’s, the B2’s T4’s and the early PR’s all had manual ejection systems. The canopy and hatches had to be fired manually, nothing was initiated by the seats and the pilot had to initiate the control column detonator himself. There was no chance of the canopy doing as you stated, the slipstream lifted canopy with the help of the initial detonation and the canopy had to lift sixty degrees to seperate from the rear latch. I worked on all these marks at RAF Binbrook between ’51 and ’56.
Ken
Since my involvement with Canberras and the Martin Baker 2CA seat, which started in 1966, to the present day all Canberra assisted escape systems have worked as I stated. I strap my little pink body into a Canberra regularly and have done so for years, we train to escape and know exactly how to do it, or has our seat expert and training been wrong all these years? I’m still flying in Canberras so I do have more than a little knowledge of how the systems work. Some of our aircraft had dets and some didnt the consensus was that it was quicker and safer to go through the canopy and that is how we operate to this day. The pilots seat has cutters on the top and at the sides to cut through the canopy, the early Canberras had a frangible rear hatch and the navs seat went through also, that was replaced by the present all metal one.
Hi.
The early Canberra’s were fitted with two stage seats, the initiator was at the top and the main charge was uncovered by the internal slide tube moving up. The back crew had no problems, jetison hatch and pull! The pilot had a bit more to do, he would jetison the canopy, then pull up a wire locked lever, this would explode a ring charge round the rod going to the elevators, a spring would pull the control column out of the way of his knees and then he could eject!
Not totally correct but close.
The nav could either jettison the hatch manually, above 60 knots, ie in the case of an emergency landing where rapid egress was desirable or just pull the handle and everything is automatic it is not neccessary to fire the hatch seperatly.
When the pilot initiates ejection, the seat sequence starts, gas from the seat cartridge fires the seat up the rail, once the seat is travelling the main charge fires, a secondary charge fitted only to the pilots seat sends gas to the stick snatch unit, this in turn drives an over centre cam which allows the snatch spring to pull the control column forward clearing the pilots legs, at the same time the electrically actuated severence charge is fired cutting the elevator control rod in the cockpit.
However some Canberras where fitted with charges around the canopy to shatter it before ejection this was fired by the handle mentioned earlier, as it took time to fire manually the through canopy route was and still is prefered, the other problem was that the canopy could tilt front edge first into the airflow and decapitate the pilot if it folded under.
All 3 seats in the Canberra have the same number of charges but the pilots seat has an extra charge to provide gas to the snatch unit.
I have pictures of CR,CT,CW,CUand CQ all without underwing serials whilst with 100 sqdn, I also have WJ680 when serving on 7 sqdn without serials although it is not my copyright.
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