Ex 51sq Canberra WJ775 and have noticed alot of German writing underneth the English warning lables this would usally mean that the aircraft would have served in Germany but looking at WJ775 movement cards she was based in England with 192 & 51 squadron at Watton and Wyton.
All the best Matt;)

Most RAF combat types that operated in the European area had German language rescue markings, some had Norwegian and the PR9 fleet when, in Malta, had Maltese rescue markings although some also had Greek markings temporarily, so it’s not unusual to have a mixture of stencils nothing was standard particularly in the Canberra fleet!

The double pole switch is the air brakes selector. The tail trim is a push switch and biased rocker switch, mounted on the right hand horn of the control stick, which both have to be selected together, this replaced the single switch which could fail and caused several fatal losses on early Canberra’s where tail trim could motor fully up or down and stay in that position.

Just wondering if this statement is true?

Planemike

Yes it is absolutely true, a well rehearsed and practiced routine is the safest way to display. At the start of each season we practice the display routine until we are happy that it all works and only then do we display, there may be minor variations to allow for local conditions, ie wind, terrain etc but the display remains essentially the same. An 8 minute display is standard with the Canberra, with it’s unpowered controls it is a very heavy aircraft to haul around for any length of time especially when it is hot.
To address the cost issue, an average 8 minute display consumes 1800-2000Lbs of Jet A1/Avtur which is about 1017 litres @ 60p / litre plus 500Lbs for taxi and take off, 282 Litres @ 60p/litre. that makes 1299litres or £779 worth. If you take an average transit time of 1 hour each way that’s 2 hours at 4000Lbs per hour, 2260 litres each way 4520 Litres @ 60p/litre that’s £2712 for the transit plus 500Lbs take off and taxi then factor in any hold for display slot slippage and it all starts to add up. An average display will consume about £4000 worth of fuel depending on transit distance and the price of fuel, which varies considerably. All this cost does not even take other consumables into consideration, starter cartridges, a minimum of 2 for each flight, oil, oxygen, nitrogen, hydraulic fluid and insurance costs.

The problem was not dimensions but American thread sizes and fasteners which are very different to UK. The tools needed would also be different and standardisation across the US military was the requirement hence the conversion to US standard fasteners. Material standards also varied between the US and UK, it wasn’t a problem for Indian or Australian production as both countries used British standards.

Surely not, who would do such a thing?:rolleyes:

Any Canberra experts or pilots know if overshooting with full flap is hazardous/dangerous?? Could this be the reason?

Baz

Limitation for flaps is 160Kts
Normal unstick is 130 Kts
Safety speed is 170 Kts
Undercarriage limiting speed is 190 Kts
Stall occurs about 82 Kts depending on weight.

So all fairly close together, take into consideration engine acceleration time and you could have a really bad day if you’re not on the ball.

What kind of money are we talking about here?. Say a Spit…is it thousands or tens of thousands? Any idea what the costs would be for Sally B or the Vulcan?.

The cost for the Canberra in 2000 was £12,000 per year which represented 70% of our operating costs, there are many factors involved not least of which is the aircraft weight and category, a big fast jet would cause more damage if it had a real bad day than a small light puddle jumper. To do display work, particularly at military establishments means a minimum of £25M public liability cover. The safety record, number of engines, operating weight, crew experience etc all play a part in the insurance premium calculations. It’s not cheap and that is reflected in the amount it costs to get into an air show.

These any good

Canberra obviously but what mark