Flown by Israeli pilots. Kind of lease contract.

A bit (ok, a bit too much :diablo: ) late for a reply, but they were actually flown by American pilots (mostly Tomcat drivers) that were trained in Israel.

Looks like the BARB to me.

I think you missed the point of my photo: 007 is a MiG-21 in the colors of the ISRAELI air force.
The IAF also inherited a whole flight of 21s from Algeria, on top of that one from Iraq.

The USAF also operated a few 21s, which AFAIK came mostly from Israel as well. (t’was meeting it Vietnam, and eager to study it).

It was also discovered that the Israeli AF nearly used the MiG-21 (007) to its operational needs. Egyptian MiGs (21 I believe) were conducting recon missions over Israel. At the time, the Israeli AF had no fighter that could catch the Egyptian MiGs, because of the MiG’s excellent acceleration. They were returning quickly back home when they saw the Israeli fighters coming in. It was then decided to use the captured MiG to intercept them. It was ready to fly and the order was given, but the MiGs never showed up again.

The MiG, however, gave Israel (and the west) a great chance to learn about what was then the peak of Soviet technology. This info (especially the fact that the MiG-21 has a fuel tank right after the cockpit) gave Israel a huge advantage in 1967.
The original 007 was later given to the Americans for further studies. In the 80s, when the Israeli AF museum project was prepared, the US was asked to return it. The did return a MiG-21, but not 007. They were told of it, so they sent another MiG, with the serial 007, but it wasn’t this one either. The real 007 is probably still somewhere in the US.

Is there any news about the ‘new’ Iraqi flag? It was mentioned a while back but i havn’t heard anything about it since. Perhaps im being naive or something… I agree, though, they should be in desert camo.

And with the “Iraqi Air Force” written in Arabic… :rolleyes:
Just shows exactly how Iraqi these planes will be :rolleyes:

AFAIK the only member of the group which is still in service is Amos Yadlin. He’s the most obvious choice to be the next airforce commander. He was supposed to be the airforce commander already, but got delayed for doing other jobs for the military.

well, there is always the chance of some stubbern ppl not agreeing no matter how much evidence or logic disagrees with their views. 😉

its funny how you come up with a totally unsubstantiated claim, and its up to the rest of us to prove you wrong, istead of you coming up with the goods to actually prove the case you are advocating (and pointing at the general shape of the ac being similar is hardly irrefutable proof).

so far, everything you or your comrades have been able to bring up to support your claims have been answered, in that logic and common sense just doesnt fit with what you are suggesting, never mind some ‘inconvinient’ facts. all you have is a conspricy theory, which cant be disbelled in your minds even if the chinese government itself came along and denied the Lavi link, as it has done so, along with israel.

as i said before, we have been through the same things over and over again, and i have no intention of bring this thread further off topic then it already is, so if you have further qualms, please start another thread.

Hmm, well my memory must betray me then, because I remember that 95% of the threads in which we tried to talk about this issue got flamed, and the other 5% were purely speculations, both by me and by you. Because eventually, all we have for now are circumstantial evidents.
Nothing more, nothing less. You don’t see me saying the J-10 is based over the Lavi. You see me trying to prove it. You on the other hand had already concluded it by saying it’s nonsense.
Well, hate to bother this thread, we better stop it here.

They’re currently testing the prototype.
http://www.livingroom.org.au/uavblog/archives/bateluer_uav_denel_aerospace_systems.php

And?
This picture has no connection whatsoever with the original topic of the thread :rolleyes: