OK, according to my friend (who is also a user here, DeepSpace) it will be either F-16Is or F-16C/Ds and most probably F-15s, but for sure not F-15Is.
Kind of weird, but he heard it from a Baz driver.
Well, remember that the F-15I’s performances aren’t worst than any other F-15 type.
Frankly I don’t know more than you do.
But if it was upto me, I would have been taking the F-15Is against the MKIs. They are much more similar to each other than an F-16I to a Su-30 MKI.
I’ll ask a friend that might know more.
hey erez do u know how many SUFA’s have been delivered .
Well, two planes for about each two months, starting February, so probably about eight by now.
As everybody can see, the Indian press is not authentic because they don’t care to verify news. News verification is not part of the jib description in India.
OTH, Tsvah Haganah Le Israel-Heyl Ha’avir has the following fighters in its inventory:
F-16 A/B (Netz) = 114
F-16 C/D (Barak) = 125
F-16I (Suefe) = 102
F-15 A/B (Baz) = 44
F-15 C/D (Akef) = 27
F-15I (Ra’am) = 25
C7/TC-7 (Kfir) = 50 (In storage)
F-4E = 40 (In Storage)
F-4 E2000/RF-4E = 65
A-4N (Ahit) = 105 (about 80 in storage)
You’re probably right about the numbers, but first of all the name of the F-16I is Sufa, and the F-15C/D are also called Baz (don’t know who invented that ‘Akef’ thing, maybe it’s some kind of an internal name). The Kfirs are in storage but there’s no chance they will be put to flying condition, unless of course get sold.
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The cockpit is very similar to the Kfir C7 cockpit, with a few less dials ! :rolleyes:
You mean, it got 1 MFD in it?
…piloted by Major Jonathan from Ramon air base, south of Tel Aviv last Wednesday.
Quite weird they mentioned the pilot’s full name… perhaps he’s a Colonel or higher in rank.
…and 140 Kfir fighters.
LOL
Someone should inform that reporter that the Kfirs are not longer used.. for almost ten years :rolleyes:
No need for proofs. From the early days of human history, we know that war was and still is hell. It can turn civlized men to animals. The wisdom is to stay civilized.
Do you believe in god?, if you do, show me a proof that he exists 😉
Yep I heard something about it too.
Although I can’t confirm it 100%, I’m pretty sure it’s true. The people of the IAI are telling about a relatively large number of potential customers that were interested in the Kfir, mostly during the eighties, but couldn’t get it due to American restrictions.
But today I wouldn’t offer them the Kfir or Kfir C10, but rather a large upgrade to their F-5Es, a Tigre III style upgrade, that will make it a true modern multi role 4th generation fighter plane.
Yeah, go ahead PLA, divert this thread into politics.
Just great.
That’s because not all of the cases are considered serious enough to reach court, and thank god we don’t have a lot of cases that get to court.
Also remember two things –
1) The Palestinian authorities sometimes lie about the number of peoples that died during battles between Israeli soldiers and Palestinian terrorists. In a research the IDF did it was found that sometimes they reported more than once that the same person was killed, in different events. In other cases, they use names of people who died natural death or from deseases, or even people that don’t exist.
2) Sometimes the Palestinian terrorists are shooting at the Palestinian civlians. They are reckless with their weapons and they use automatic fire, while the Israeli soldiers use only single shot mode. Sadly there are a lot of civilian Palestinian casualties that are caused because of the terrorists.
Balls. Erez, do you have a clue of you sayng? Do you have a clue what’s the meaning of “selective kills” of Israel? Such as fire a hellfire to a car with a guy comdamned to death by israel leadership, then fire again missiles vs. the clouth joined near the wrecks and kill a dozen of persons there? A palestinian is good only if dead, doesn’t it?
Balls. nuke1, do you have a clue of you saying? Do you have a clue what’s the meaning of “Shaid” of the Palestinians? Such as sending a madman to a bus full of citizens comdamned to death by the Palestinian terrorists? A jew is good only if dead, doesn’t it?
When you say seriously that things bad happens because some “bad apples” are in the army,f frustated, stupid or so, you play the same dirty game played always in these chases. If somewhat goes wrong the guilth is of a single soldier. Not of who has ordered to enter in a village and bulldoze it, but to someone that has accidentally fired to a kid killing him. some things are too much dirty to say that if something went wrong the guilth is only of the soldier xy. It’s a bit easy, not?
No, it’s not easy at all. And no, we don’t just blame the soldier, we also check who exactly gave him the order and why.
It’s not an easy job to control another people, and I hope it will be over soon. But until that happens, excuse me for understanting the hard reality our soldiers have to deal with every day.
These kind on events usually start and end inside the units and don’t get published in newspapers and such. However, whenever an innocent dies, we always check whether it was our fault. If it was, we check who exactly shooted and why. If we find something wrong in that soldier’s action, it does get published. Every few weeks we got here in the news reports about violence made by some soldiers. We don’t try to hide it, we try to deal with it and prevent it from happening again.
I can’t bring you individual cases here, but a simple google search about “Israeli soldiers kill” brings you some results that just show that we don’t try to hide these kinds of things. And we could have if we wanted. It’s not a problem dening such events.
Oh, and if it can go all the way back to the Six Day War and give details of a massacre of civilians that apparently never took place but led to a courts marshall not taking place which subsequently found all those who took part innocent since the event never officially happened, that would be good too.
Such as?