Blackcat, nothing personal, but I find it really hard to read your English, especially as I’m not a native English speaker. Try to write a bit better ok? 😉

yup i know abt the imagery, but have it have the Indian acomodativeness for Isreali subs made them give us any rebate on the Phalcon??…. which is as easily can sccumb to American pressure to the newer and cheaper Beoings AWACS??

First of, who says it cheaper/newer?
The AWACS existed long before the Phalcon was developed, and I’m not so sure about its price – not to say so sure the US would agree to sell it to you.

and can u tell me when Isreal started building their satellites and when their space programes really took off??…the only coz of which India did not go in for the high rewsolution or for a military way was coz of lack of political wil, if we had we’d have developed our own by now or wud have acquired the same from soviet Russia earlier …

The Israeli space program started in about the early 80s and included satellites.

hey c’mon I’m already chilling , but chilli means different in Hindi though …. k that said, yup i am not against any deals with Isreral nbut it has to be of equal footing, in this Dhruv deal, HAL is the biggest looser whatever way u look, Just coz HAL don have a good marketing wing does not warrent HAL or the Indian Govts to hand over the Dhruv to the Isrealis to market it as IAI’s Dhruv, But y can’t it be marketed as HAL’s Dhruv with IAI’s painting with that symbolying that Isreal do have its part in that with the avionics, and a fully HAL painting if its with HAL avionics…. I say thats pretty fair in marketing

i never contest that India as superior tech than Isreal, but in some fields we do have, but that also does not mean that all that isreal does is perfect or any of that sort … but what i’d expect from the isreali’s is to stfu with their media dosages

All I can say is: :confused:
Where did you see anybody saying “IAI Dhruv”? :confused: Please find me at least one example…
And I don’t understand your point about the painting of the helis. What difference does it make?
But also notice that although you build the airframe, don’t think that avionics aren’t a big deal. Because they are. I’ve already written earlier some examples of what state of the art avionics can do to an airframe.
I don’t see any reason why you are so pis$ed off about the Indian-Israeli partnership in the Dhruv.
It’s really for the good of all.

Yeah, chill buddy.
What’s wrong with you today? :rolleyes:
It’s not a shame to have foreign assitant in your projects and developments. You should really be happy the IAI and HAL are partners. We may not bulid submarines but we sure as hell good in marketing.
Sure you can also put Indian avionics on the heli, and I’m sure some countries might buy it this way, but with all due the respect, we got better electronics than you and than a large part of the world, and combining the Dhruv’s airframe with Israeli systems with unleash the chopper’s potential on the best way.
It’s amazing what you can do to airframes today if you install state of the art avionics and upgrades. You can take an F-4 and make it like an F-15E, you can take an F-5 and make it like an F-16, and you can take a helicopter and make it a world leader.