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  • in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202114
    sheytanelkebir
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    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/30/middleeast/iraq-militants-airstrike/

    Here is a more detailed account.

    once again showing iraqi air raids and calling them american.

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202121
    sheytanelkebir
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    So, you’re seriously presenting this as a fact?

    I show you!

    the pilot in question

    http://i.imgur.com/677NcWV.jpg

    doing the deed
    since its NSFW images I will give you a link.
    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1700&p=39993#p39993

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202132
    sheytanelkebir
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    a few more… just to make the point.

    also from yesterday

    discussions inside the King Air 350I with the attack helo pilots as the go about their business.

    in the aftermath one survivor is caught. probably wished the helo killed him.

    another after effect vid

    and another of the column nearer to amiriyat al falluja

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202134
    sheytanelkebir
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    I don’t know what’s your problem. The only media article I posted said the Iraqis carried out the most of the attacks and that the US did some later that day during the night. Yes, it’s funny how some Western media posted the videos of strikes with blurred out arabic text, but most of them do a copy/paste so I’m not sure which one was the original source of this news and video. The US media needs to present some results in this war against IS for all the money being spent while the Iraqi media needs to bolster the morale and show that they can achieve victories on their own. Neither is particularly objective here so no surprise if the presentation gets somewhat skewed.

    But, why would it be a problem if the US actually participated in some of the strikes during the night? Does it really diminish this “victory”?

    Regarding the video, I don’t see all these vehicles as being destroyed – some are destroyed, most seem to be abandoned with the IS troops apparently long gone by then (there are only about two cars moving on those videos and perhaps a few dismounts can be seen).

    So, you’re seriously presenting this as a fact?

    they displayed some dozens of abandoned vehicles… hundreds were destroyed and hundreds were abandoned in the melee.

    there are more new videos emerging from the head cams of iraqi helo pilots blowing up the stragglers who tried to break out.

    I note that ABC news and the like have “amended” their articles … but of course only after the damage has been done and iraqis even begun mockingly to post videos of US raids in Syria and deliberately lying and calling them Iraqi raids to illustrate the point. 😉

    minister of defence visiting some of the helo pilots who participated.

    here are videos from yesterday showing some of the escaped vehicles from the doomed convoy who escaped to the desert near razazza lake being picked off one by one with a CH-4B.

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202308
    sheytanelkebir
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    Clearly Mi-28, but I am curious, what is the footage itself from? Their Bells?

    yea. The footage is from IA-407s as always.

    Interesting in that video they showed a pilot of either a IA-407 or EC-635 who having used up his last rocket to blow up a vehicle saw that one terrorist survived and crawled out of the vehicle… so he pursued him in the helicopter and shot him with his personal pistol then did a touch and go on his head to “make sure”.

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202311
    sheytanelkebir
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    So, you have first hand information that absolutely no US aircraft participated in any of these strikes?

    For instance, here it’s stated that the Coalition JOC stated how Iraqi aircraft carried the majority of the strikes and were later joined by US aircraft.

    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2016/Jun-30/359839-iraq-says-airstrikes-destroy-260-isis-vehicles-fleeing-fallujah.ashx

    1- in the video the iraqi army aviation commander stated:

    “at 21.00 our aircraft spotted a buildup of a convoy out of these areas to the south and west of fallujah and we dispatched all our aircraft from taji and habaniya to hunt them down. over 20 aircraft participated in dozens of sorties which are ongoing to hunt down the huge convoy consisting of hundreds of vehicles over 12km long. No other country participated in the attacks”.

    This was from yesterday… The attack happened from the evening of the 28th to the middle of the 29th of june.

    Initially the US flat out refused to give air support to the iraqis.

    Only later on last night the US flew a couple of “token sorties” against other targets nearby. (go and check the CENTCOM site)

    http://www.centcom.mil/media/press-releases

    and claim to have destroyed 150 ISIL vehicles between habaniya and falluja… let them show their videos then!!

    The above was a 100% iraqi operation from beginning to end.

    Sadly the media portrays it as a 100% US operation! they don’t even give the measly iraqis even 1% credit! And of course sad to say people are immediately defensive about the US and dismissive of iraqis… despite ALL evidence to the contrary. In fact had the media worded it “iraqi carried out a raid and the US supported them with their own raids on nearby targets” it would have been ok… but these sad outright lies… when they US media desperately tries to edit the video of iraqi helos in a way to cut out the “iraqi ministry of defence” written in arabic in the top left corner of the video! hilarious!

    go on then. hold the americans to the same level of “proof” you expect from the “cowardly iraqi liars”… as is the usual presumption.

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202376
    sheytanelkebir
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    continuing along the same theme….

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/30/middleeast/iraq-militants-airstrike/index.html

    showing videos of iraqi helos… and talking about “coalition this and coalition that”.

    then this article…
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-led-strikes-pound-islamic-state-iraq-kill-001952250.html

    with a couple of thousand comments below with the usual nonsense.

    in reply to: Which attack helicopter for Iraq? #2202390
    sheytanelkebir
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    Iraqi army aviation carried out a large air raid on a daesh convoy killing hundreds.

    western media (say for the honourable exception of the BBC) reported it as “US forces destroy IS convoy”!!!

    they even reposted the iraqi MOD official combat footage and cropped out the iraqi mod overlay in the top left corner!

    look at this… http://abcnews.go.com/International/250-isis-militants-killed-us-airstrikes-officials/story?id=40236189

    in reply to: L-159 Alca #2162540
    sheytanelkebir
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    Iraqi L-159s will have their baptism of fire in the Battle of Falluja which commenced today.

    sheytanelkebir
    Participant

    and the FA-50…

    in reply to: L-159 Alca #2184451
    sheytanelkebir
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    the iraqis have also started flying the two planes they have in basic familiarisation sorties out of Balad AB in the last month. Hopefully they’ll start bombing daesh sooner rather than later.

    in reply to: Iran-Iraq air war #2195333
    sheytanelkebir
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    can you suggest any better sources ?

    Iraq lost 140-150 fixed wing aircraft. Work your way backwards from that with claims (including claims by air defences).

    There are kills attributed in that list to iraqi mig23ml a full 2 years before iraq received them (just one example). Similarly the list of iranian claims and “confirmed” as per acig runs to nearly 300% of iraqs total actual losses…

    These are not exagartions by either official side. It’s simply third parties making up lists without access to real archives of iraq or Iran.. And when the list was made acig didn’t even have access to Iraqs list of available airframes in 1990 and accurate delivery figures in order to match up claims. But sadly the old acig database figures were never corrected and the mythology continues by being plastered all over Wikipedia…

    in reply to: J-6 in CAS role #2195334
    sheytanelkebir
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    but iran did the rev guards AF, besides the point main reason is to discuss the ability of F-6 to carry offensive ordnance in the CAS role

    Did they? Is there any evidence of Iranians j6?

    in reply to: J-6 in CAS role #2195561
    sheytanelkebir
    Participant

    there is no evidence that iraq had J6 at all.

    in reply to: Iran-Iraq air war #2195565
    sheytanelkebir
    Participant

    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=67

    from the same forum the discussion on the MiG-25 but I don’t see a list of kills scored by Mig-25PDS

    maybe sheytanalkebir can help us

    from the officers there, iraqi MiG25PDS did not go deep into Iranian airspace due to GCI limitations.
    One MiG25RB was lost in combat during the war over Iran.
    There was no mig25 pilot called “mohammad rayan” which was simply a myth.

    there are quite a few old iraq officers active on this Facebook page. you can ask them about kills.
    https://www.facebook.com/Armyofiraq/?fref=photo

    but it seems the numbers of kills were rather small. mainly the MiG25s were flown as recon and bombing planes. the interceptors seem to have had not much to do during much of the war.

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