I fail to see how kurds can block any sales to Iraq (except by trying to block the funding in parliament which, if you see above, has failed recently). L159s are not cancelled just signing has been delayed whilst they haggle on the price of ordnance (and were awaiting the 2013 budget to be signed off). Regarding the GCC… according to the Iraqi Defence Minister some GCC state offered russia money over and above the Iraqi contract price in order to buy the weapons the Iraqis were looking for and for a promise from russia not to sell weapons to Iraq… Russians declined the offer. I think one of the strongest indicators that at least one GCC state will indeed buy Rafales is in order to prevent Iraq from buying them…
I think there may still be some which were put into storage with quite a lot of life left. Libya may have a few in that state (like some of the Mirage III/Vs they sold to Pakistan for spares years back, some of which turned out to be lightly used & in good condition), & there may be some others.
there were about 8 or so iraqi planes in france since 1990 which were overhauled… iraqis still didn’t want them now. its really throwing good money after bad, especially when all your support structure for the mirages is no longer in existence so you’re starting from scratch… to support a 35 year old plane! just doesn’t make sense for a “new” operator… only for someone upgrading existing airframes.
no information about any weapons quantities. but expect them to be no more than 2 squadrons of fighters in total, so about 36-40 planes in total… my hunch would be 24 MiG29M/M2 + 16 SU30 variant… but that’s just a guess based on what the air force size is planned to be and what sort of budget numbers they’re talking about.
Iraqis want to have up to 8 “combat” squadrons by 2020… (probably won’t achieve that, but that’s the “3 stage plan” started in 2008 for rebuilding the armed forces). 2 of these will be F16IQ … the Iraqis had in the past requested super hornets from the US and been declined… which is why the iraqis are looking for a heavier/twin engined type from other places… there was even discussion of eurofighters some time ago… but that idea died along with the hawk trainers… so the choices open to them are narrowing down to the ones they’re looking at now… even france AFAIK didn’t offer rafale to Iraq (because of pressure from potentially more profitable customers in the GCC).
I would have thought the greeks would be better off leasing something a bit more modern… like a C-295MPA. with their geography, they’re better off sacrificing some armour/mech units to maintain their MPA capability.
I didn’t even think the Russians were particularly big in the UAV business… but the US had in the past rejected Iraqi requests for UAVs except for some small simple ones (Raven and scaneagle) and the Iraqis do have thousands of kilometers of pipelines and open borders to monitor / take action in… so a lightly armed UAV with long endurance would be good.
so actually the die-cast model for the B738s was wrong after all…
and this will be the new livery, the first new build 738s will be delivered this summer.
it is the same as the new livery for the CRJs.

looks like the “second deal” is about to be concluded…
Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) -MP, Adnan al-Mayahi, of the Parliamentary Security and Defense Committee stated that Iraq will conduct a new armament deal with Russia.
Speaking to Iraqi News (IraqiNews.com), he said βThe Russian side did not reject the previous armament deal with Iraq which was conducted in 2012 where it has no defaults, but some persons in the negotiating Iraqi delegation were changed.β
βThe new deal will include purchasing warplanes and different air defense equipment that are different from those in the previous armament deal in addition to reconnaissance aircrafts,β he concluded.
-by “reconnaissance aircrafts” he means UAVs.
i read some where that iraq might be getting the S300 PMU2 as part of the 4.2bill deal. i think its a bit of a long shot have you come accross any info on this.
the iraqi parliamentary defence committee made one mention of a “missile complexes which costs $210M each” as part of the russian deal. That is the only speculative mention of possible S300s in the deal…
its because these planes were prepared for an african airline I believe (air mauritius or something like that?) who then didn’t take delivery, and the Iraqis took it… that’s what they’re doing now to build up their fleet quickly(A320, A330, B777s etc… all bought on the “cancelled orders” market), and sadly it results in having a complete mish-mash of internal fixtures and no set standard seats/infotainment etc…
the CRJs which were built to Iraqi requirement are much nicer on the inside… and hopefully the B738/B787s when they start arriving will standardise the IA livery and cabins to a more “tasteful” level!
Iraqi CRJ
the Iraqi planes should be block 52+ (JHMCS, CFTs, APG-68v9, ISAR)… so they should have the P&W engine. still no formal announcement from P&W that I can see. great attack plane overall… shame about A2A capability though.
nothing is 100% confirmed yet… confirmation will come when the russians do the annual declaration to the UN Arms register…
So i’m reading they’ve apparently passed a defence budget of 17 billion $. At first sight it’s an impressive figure , but some say mostly it’s for personnel. What are we talking about here, on what personnel are they going to spend most of that money on?
Last year’s MOD budget was only $14Bn… so this year’s $17Bn is a good increase of $3Bn (21%). Still this is less than the original request from the draft budget which was $19Bn.
there is a separate supplemental budget of $4-$5Bn for “arms purchases” annually and should be stepped up by 20% annually… Since the vote passed with the kurds opposing it… (they wanted that $4Bn given to the oil companies they signed PSA contracts with)… it means the money was saved. π
This is the first time an annual budget is passed in Iraq without Kurdish approval… seems the “gravy train” for the Kurdish region off the Iraqi budget is coming to a slow end.
anyway. here’s the official blurb up on the govt website now.
http://www.parliament.iq/Iraqi_Council_of_Representatives.php?name=articles_ajsdyawqwqdjasdba46s7a98das6dasda7das4da6sd8asdsawewqeqw465e4qweq4wq6e4qw8eqwe4qw6eqwe4sadkj&file=showdetails&sid=9471
the link I put up conflagates purchase costs with “lifecycle costs”. But it does show the actual truth too… π
F16IQ purchase costs are $60M each including including radars, weapons, equipment, ground support etc…
The 30 year old refurbished mirages would have cost $55M each.
apples to apples comparison. Some media still parrot the line that Iraqi F16s cost $4Bn to buy. That is simply not true, that is the DSCA “estimate” for lifecycle cost over 20 years. not the up front purchase price.
your guess is as good as mine π I wonder if state salaries will even be paid next month!!!
How actively are the Chinese marketing their more modern aircraft?
I haven’t heard of them marketing anything more than the JF17, J7 and some J10A…
J10B, SU-27 derivatives, J20/J31 of course don’t seem to be marketed abroad at all… I think just domestic requirement is filling their production orders fine.
most of their clientele are third world countries looking for simpler planes, therefore the JF17s are actually very suitable for that… still many african states now have SU27/SU30 types … so their neighbours may be wary of having just JF17 as their main fighter. Eventually china will have to offer a more advanced aircraft to match Russian offers.
I actually like the JF17… I think it would be a nice “second line” fighter for us π