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  • in reply to: Iran-Iraq air war #2195578
    sheytanelkebir
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    i think by now its clearly established that the list is fantasy… kills made by iraqi planes that did not exist. iran shooting down 2-3x more planes than iraq lost in total etc…

    in reply to: Iran-Iraq air war #2195726
    sheytanelkebir
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    Ah.. Iran-Iraqi air war.

    Well the only thing i’m interested in is that..is Iraq really have Kh-22 ? The only source of this is Tom Cooper…and only in literature.. No photos, no physical evidence.. nothing. My correspondence with Flateric of secretprojects and in other forum also yield that Iraqis does not possess Kh-22.

    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=63

    Here an iraqi officer raft says the following after a post by Tom Cooper.

    Iraq received 12 tu22 only. Beginning in late 1973.
    They never had any missiles and only had freefall bombs
    During the war they suffered the following losses.

    4X shot down over enemy territory
    1X exploded on the ground whilst taxiing during the tawakalna ala Allah battles (bomb fusing issue)
    1X was written off after being heavily damaged and having its tail shot off by iranian missiles but still.limbed back to base and landed.

    6X planes survived the war.

    in reply to: Iran-Iraq air war #2198258
    sheytanelkebir
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    Great insight few.

    You did forget to mention the actual excuse Saddam gave for the iraqi attack on 1980. Namely these were.
    1- Khomeini openly supporting shia islamists in Iraq to kill and overthrow Saddam (bombing of mustansiriya university in April 1980 which wounded tariq aziz amongst other attacks by iranian financed groups).
    2- regaining both sides of shat al Arab which iraq signed away in 1975 under duress (shah was funding and arming kurdish rebels.jn northern iraq and soviets cut off supplies in concert).
    3-iranian artillery and air strikes into iraqi towns and villages starting in August 1980. Iraq justified the Later attack by saying they wanted to create a buffer zone to protect iraqi towns and settlements along the border from pre meditated iranian bombardment.

    Secondary considerations included iranian exiles wishing to return to power, gulf monarchies fearing shia uprisings etc… But the primary considerations were the three above I mention. The fact that nearly 40 years after the war started this fact is still unknown to most people is breathtaking. But I suppose iraqi perspectives are so very rarely known about anything.

    With regards to the air war. The war started massively lopsided in irans favour due to.
    1- having over 300 bvr capable long range fighters. Vs Iraq having zero bvr capable fighters
    2- iraq and 90% of its strategic targets being within easy reach of all iranian aircraft. But most of Iran being beyond the reach of the iraqi airforce (and the 20 tupolev bombers would be too vulnerable to use due to hundreds of iranian bvr fighters to intercept them)
    3- both iraq and irans military was being purged at the time. In Iraq hundreds of air force officers and pilots were killed arrested or discharged due to loyalty to either shia parties or the communist party.
    4- at the outset of the war both sides had weapons shipments halted by suppliers.

    Despite the massive geographical, numerical and technological advantage Iran did not make effective use of its advantage at the beginning of the war. The internal turmoil the had was worse than in Iraq hence the lack of organisation.
    Iraq due to its massive geographical and technological inferiority at the beginning of the war was quite defensive with only fleeting attacks Deep into Iran. It was only in about 1986 that Iraq had built a sort of technological parity with Iran in the air. And the remaining two years iraqi airforce could attack and assert itself a bit more… However irans massive territorial advantage remained and could not be surmounted by iraq at all.

    in reply to: L-159 Alca #2158616
    sheytanelkebir
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    here they are in Balad.

    http://i.imgur.com/qoL47te.jpg

    in reply to: L-159 Alca #2158985
    sheytanelkebir
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    here they are in Plovdiv Bulgaria during ferry flight…

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    [ATTACH=CONFIG]241725[/ATTACH]

    in reply to: L-159 Alca #2159152
    sheytanelkebir
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    Apparently l159 supposed to arrive in Iraq today….

    in reply to: If you could only choose one Flanker type.. #2168561
    sheytanelkebir
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    Depends on country size.

    For larger country su30sm
    For smaller country mig35

    in reply to: T50IQ – Iraq's new trainer / light fighter #2168598
    sheytanelkebir
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    Here’s the second pic.

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    in reply to: T50IQ – Iraq's new trainer / light fighter #2169283
    sheytanelkebir
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    Should have posted this here.
    http://i.imgur.com/a4jaZYK.jpg

    in reply to: F-16IQ: Status? #2169353
    sheytanelkebir
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    Iraqi t50-iq light fighter first flew in July 2015.
    http://i.imgur.com/a4jaZYK.jpg

    in reply to: L-159 Alca #2182891
    sheytanelkebir
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    That is not even the current iraqi af roundel (no stars in new iraqi flag). Better PS effort needed.

    in reply to: F-16IQ: Status? #2183902
    sheytanelkebir
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    The F16s have conducted over 15 strike sorties.

    http://mod.mil.iq/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1461

    strike footage at:
    00.20
    4.35
    6.20

    in reply to: Horrible aircraft deals in the past 30 years #2186805
    sheytanelkebir
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    Tornado adv for Saudi air force. But the bae kickbacks were too good for the princes.
    F16-iq for iraq. Uncle Sam had them in headlock gently reminding them of the price of saying no to uncle.
    Airbus A400M for everyone. Eurowide social security scheme masquerading as defence expenditure.
    Mra4. What a complete disaster from inception to death.
    Etc…

    in reply to: Small Air Forces Thread #16 #2187193
    sheytanelkebir
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    Those are iraqi army aviation mi171 helos Operating out of erbil. They all have iraqi markings and any kurdish markings are either photoshop or simple fabric flags draped on for photo only.

    in reply to: Horrible aircraft deals in the past 30 years #2187829
    sheytanelkebir
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    Amx – not really suitable for Brazil IMHO.

    F35 – for everyone

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