Anything other than the Rafale or Typhoon or bestworst case scene – the F18 and Matt would be dead right as far as the MMRCA goes. Is going to be the Super hornet guys ๐
Here it is
The Indian Air Force (IAF) on Tuesday floated a global tender for 126 combat jets worth $10 billion in the country’s biggest ever defence deal, but it could be six years before the first planes start arriving.
Eighteen of the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) will be purchased in flyaway condition and the remaining 108 manufactured in the country under a transfer of technology (TOT) agreement with the chosen supplier. The aircraft are envisaged to have a lifecycle of 40 years from the time of delivery.
The 211-page request for proposal (RFP) has been sent to the manufacturers of six aircraft: the US F-16 and F-18 Super Hornet, the Swedish Gripen, the French Rafale, the Russian MiG-35 and a European consortium’s Eurofighter.
India’s Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) had cleared the RFP at a meeting here June 29 chaired by Defence Minister A.K. Antony.
The six companies, which have been given six months to respond, will also be asked to sign a confidentiality clause against revealing the contents of the RFP to a third party.
The RFP will also contain an offsets clause under which 50 percent of the money paid to the chosen vendor will have to be reinvested in India’s defence manufacturing sector.
The offsets clause that was introduced in the Defence Procurement Procedure-2006 (DPP-2006) mandates that 30 percent of the cost of military purchases exceeding Rs.3 billion has to be reinvested in the country.
“The DAC had decided that the offsets in this case would be 50 percent,” Defence Ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar told reporters.
The IAF desperately needs new aircraft to replace its ageing fleet of Soviet-era MiG-21 fighters that make up 21 squadrons of its 30-squadron fleet of combat aircraft.
While the RFP relates to 126 aircraft, the number could go up by 70-80 to make up for the aircraft that will be phased out in the period before the new jets start arriving.
The RFP also contains a selection model that would involve an exhaustive evaluation process as detailed in the DPP-2006.
Explaining the process, Kar said a professional team would conduct a technical evaluation of the proposals received to check for compliance with the IAF’s operational requirements and other RFP conditions.
Following this, extensive field trials would be carried out to evaluate the performance of the different aircraft. Finally, the commercial proposal of the vendors short-listed after technical and field evaluations would be examined and compared.
The defence ministry’s Contract Negotiation Committee (CNC) would then hold discussions with the vendors before identifying the manufacturer who would be awarded the IAF order.
The CNC would submit its report to the defence minister, who would forward it to the finance minister. After the file returns to the defence ministry, it would go for final approval to the cabinet committee on security (CCS). This process would take some two-and-a-half years.
After the contract is signed with the chosen manufacturer, it would take another two-and-a-half years before the first aircraft start arriving.
“Since the aircraft are likely to be in service for over 40 years, the vendors have to provide lifetime support and performance based warranty for them,” Kar pointed out.
According to him, defence ministry officials “have confirmed that great care has been taken to ensure that only determinable factors that do not lend themselves to any subjectivity are included in the commercial selection model.
“It is expected that the technology transfer and offset clauses would provide a great technological and economic boost to the indigenous defence industries in the public sector,” Kar stated.
The floating of the tender is the culmination of a process that began in 2001 when the IAF sent out its request for information (RFI) for 126 jets.
During this period, the IAF has witnessed an alarming dip in its fighter squadron levels from a sanctioned strength of 391/2 to 30.
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http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/45214/us-wants-indias-fighter-jet-order-dangles-f35-carrot.html
New Delhi: Unmatched stealth and super cruise – the Indian Air Force got a glimpse of the future of air combat in an American presentation on its next-generation fighter, the F-35, on Tuesday.
There were indications that the US is willing to share this new weapon with India, but it’s clearly a carrot for giving the older F-16 a leg up in the Indian tender for 126 fighter aircraft.
Says Lockheed Martin’s Royce Caplinger, “Beyond the RFP that’s on the horizon, the F-35 too could play a role, sometime in the future.”
The Americans are raising the bar for the competition in the Indian arms bazaar. They are making offers which are difficult to resist. India is being told that it can have the new generation stealth fighter for the price of an F-16.
“Think one to one and I am serious when I say this,” says Caplinger.
So, the F-16 is now being sold as the transition to a fifth generation fighter, which has no parallel among the competition. And affordability is the key to this sales pitch.
The price is about $50 million apiece at current prices. The Americans promise that the F-35 will take India into a different league.
“It’s a game changer, in every sense of the word,” says Caplinger.
The Joint Strike Aircraft will be operationalised only by 2014. The first of India’s 126 fighters of an earlier generation will only start arriving by then.
So, the signal that the F-35 would be available is bound to raise an Indian dilemma: Is India investing over Rs 40,000 crore in fighters which will be rendered obsolete by a similarly-priced aircraft ?
Well if the nuke deal goes through its the “superbug” for sure. But it seems to be flondering at the moment. So it might be the Eurofighter or the Rafale with a few migs thrown in for the navy. Remember the IAF wants a non-russian aircraft.
How does the radar cancellation system of the Rafale work?
What makes the typhoon so great? Well its the whole lot of British Bull that is published ๐ ( I love the Rafale ) ๐
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Weaponisation is to begin this year with the EL – 2032 radar for which 4-5 sets have been ordered.
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Didnt the DRDO top honcho say that they had succeeded in integrating an AESA with the LCA? An AESA the EL-2032 is not
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He didnt say anything of the sort, he said advances in phased array radars had been achieved, which probably meant x band Tx/Rx modules for future applications. Instead the import crazy crowd promptly to the conclusion it was an Elta 2052 and fitted onto the LCA.
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Maybe he was just playing with words. But if I remember the interview he trumpeted the fact that integrating an AESA with the LCA had been completed.
Weaponisation is to begin this year with the EL – 2032 radar for which 4-5 sets have been ordered.
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Didnt the DRDO top honcho say that they had succeeded in integrating an AESA with the LCA? An AESA the EL-2032 is not ๐ก
Nice aircraft though its going to be the F-18 for the IAF now that the nuclear deal is on its way to being a reality ๐ฎ
Well at least expect a decision to be made in concrete whether the Indians are willing to put their eggs in the Russian basket as regards the 5th gen fighter or not.
Article in today’s TOI states that the JV with the Russian’s for the 5th gen fighter could be clinched during Putin’s visit next month :diablo:
Here we go again ๐
India is also joining up with Israel for a new comprehensive EW fit for the LCA-including passive/ active ECM and electro-optical detection & countermeasures.
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Guys with the F-18 a front runner for the MMRCA deal for political reasons more than anything else what weapons and tech do u think the US will clear for sale and transfer to India?
Can we hope to see some HDW submarines for the IN now? :diablo: :dev2: ๐
India, Germany to sign defence agreement
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Saturday, September 2nd, 2006
New Delhi – More than four months after Prime Minister Manmohan Singhโs visit to Berlin that brought an upswing in bilateral ties, specially in the area of high technology cooperation, India and Germany would sign their first-ever joint defence cooperation agreement next week.
This crucial agreement, to be signed during the visit of Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee to Germany and France beginning Sunday, would provide India access to German hi-tech weapons technology and facilitate intensive interaction between the armed forces of the two countries.
โThe agreement will open doors of German technology transfer to India and provide the framework for holding joint naval exercises and more interaction between the armed forces of the two countries,โ a defence ministry spokesman said here.
Besides meeting Defence Minister Franz Josef Jung and Minister for Technology and Economics Michael Gloss, Mukherjee would also address the top brass of German defence industries.
The minister would also pay homage at Zehrensdorf Indian cemetery where graves of 206 Indian soldiers, who died as prisoners during the First World War, lie.
The minister would hold talks with his French counterpart Michele Aliottee and is likely to use this meeting to allay anxieties in the armament industry about the growing India-US defence ties.
They might discuss the possibility of India buying French nuclear equipment and technology after the India-US nuclear deal is cleared by the US Congress and approved unanimously by the 45-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group.
Mukherjee would also meet top CEOs of defence firms, including the European consortium EADS, Thales and Aviation giant Dassault, at a round table.
The Indian delegation accompanying Mukherjee also comprises S. Banerjee, Director General Acquisition, Chief of the Integrated Defence Staff Lt. Gen. H.S. Lidder, eminent missile scientist Prahlada, Sujata Singh, joint secretary in the external affairs ministry and Gautam Chatterji, joint secretary in the defence ministry.