Ref Tangmere1940’s “I’m sure the RAFM would be happy to answer the question if posed to them“
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I did, concerning the wreck of Hurricane P3175, and was assured that it will stay on display at Hendon but where on the site was yet to be decided.
Succinctly put and spot on Cees.
Yes, that’s the one. It sounds as though it’s not the one in the pic you saw. The oleos of the RG475 one would have a distinctive moth eaten appearance. The axle was good though. As were the wheel hubs and tyres but they were from a different source.
Assisting projects? Including their own. The rear spar of the Hurricane wing was left off the display and was last seen with the Stirling pile in the White hangar before refurbishment. It’s probably still with the Stirling pile and could cause a bit of head scratching in the future!
… For instance the RAF Museum has a good quality original nose transparency in storage as well as an original undercarriage leg. …
Have you seen the u/c leg in store? It could be one of those from RG475, in which case it will be a little moth eaten. In the late 70s one of RG475’s u/c legs and two tyres and hubs (not from that aircraft) were donated to Hendon. Half of the other RG475 leg is on display at the Walton Heritage Museum.
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Certainly looks like it. The bottom part of the explosion looks very convincing but the top half looks a bit odd. Maybe it’s just a poor reproduction: modern scan of a xerox copied newspaper picture? The explosion was proably just the ordnance. Note the cut marks on the wing ribs in the colour photo in post #15 (to remove the guns and ammunition?) and the lack of blast damage on those items. The large lump of frame to the left, not present in the b&w photo in post #15, must have been the scrap men’s haul. Such a pity.
Many thanks Hampden Project, Whitley_Project and Anon for solving both sources. The Mustang item could be a missing ‘mislaid’ piece from ‘Little Zippie’ – need to check. So, the inspection stamp is a Gloster ‘G5’, it isn’t very clear on the item. Pity those parts have no history, but at least they now have a type identity.
PM sent Rocketeer.
Whitley_Project, I forgot to ask what makes the cylinder ‘Mustang’? As you can probably guess I’m not familiar with the Mustang numbering system. Any ideas on its function or location in the aircraft?
No takers for the potential Gloster parts unfortunately. I thought they would be the easier ones to identify, but not so.
That was quick Whitley_Project, many thanks.
One down two to go.
I think it is just ‘bits’. The pieces in the first photo below were loaned to the embryo museum at Andrewsfield, later to become the Rebel Air Museum. Maybe they survived Rebel’s closure and someone may know where they are now? I’ve often wondered about the remains of yellow paint on some of those panels. As far as I know no pieces went to the East Essex Aviation Museum at Point Clear which wasn’t formed until 14 years after the recovery.
The Sabre engine was brought up with the wreckage. After the police had removed the ordnance I understood the remains were salvaged for scrap by the local marine community. The engine might have survived, but I have no idea what happened to it.
It is very unlikely that the wreckage was blown up by the Army/Navy. There would be no point. It lay well above low water mark and would just spread jagged metal over a wide area. The second photo shows the site in 1972, marked by two staves, cleared of all large metal bits and no sign of a crater in the mud. The larger pieces are the fuel tanks.
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Looks good. Whatever you cover it with do it quickly. Now naked, any moisture in the air will already be making its mark. One of the advantages of DeoxC is that it leaves a (grey) protective film, easily removed with a quick wire brushing, so the object doesn’t need to have an instant protective coating applied.
Just out of interest, below are ‘before and after’ DeoxC treatment pictures of a section of heavily rusted Hurricane tubing. I wasn’t expecting to find that much surviving paint! (The brown stain on the ‘after’ is the remains of the jointing compound.)
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A soaking in DeoxC (by Bilthamber). Google will lead you to it.
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/ videos/under-the-skin-aircraft-of-the-battle-of-britain/
Brian
Have you been able to ‘step over the line’ and get really close like the photographers in the video or is it selected people only?
Probably one of the series of official photos taken in late September 40 (21st?) when 616 flew down to Fowlmere to join 19 Sqdn. Others in the series include a mixed group of 19 & 616 Sqdn pilots standing by / sitting on a Spitfire wing and the much used photo of 19 Sqdn’s Sgt Jennings taking off in QV-I X4474.
The Hurricane wreck, which is rather tucked away, could be used to stunning effect in the entrance…
Which is where it was originally when the BofB Hall opened in 78. Probably a bit difficult to move though.