Mark 12 has kindly supplied me with a very nice selection of photos of various Russian Hurricane recoveries, the only problem is he is not sure of the identities of the airframes in question!
Throwing this open to all – does anyone have any information regarding the serial, the provenance or the subsequent disposal of this one, which was temporarily assembled on the quayside in Archangel during “Operation Dervish ’91” which commemorated the 50th anniversary of the original arrival of No. 151 Wing at Vaenga in 1941?
See post #18 in previous thread http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?118320-Flying-Soviet-Huricane-Spitfire-Please! Same machine, but you have probably already spotted that. Odd that Mark12 mentions the Z2587 panel found on it but not the actual id of the machine itself. If the one on the quayside is P3353/DR393 then there is the link.
G-ORDY
DR393/P3351 might well be the correct id, but have you seen the photos used in Bonhams sale brochure for the aircraft which show a collection of very fragmented Hurricane sections? Maybe they were intended as ‘examples of the type of wreckage recovered’ – interestingly one shows a Polish insignia on one of the fuselage side panels. See pm.
Now worked out it was between 1979 and the end of the 1982 display season, …… So was my photo at Baginton in 1979, 80, 81 or 82 … help!
If it helps, a photo floating around the internet shows LF363 painted as GN-F with 3 bladed prop dated as Aug 81.
The Canadians have secured two Hastings wing centre sections to form the basis of a future Halifax restoration from the Irish Sea…….
Not the Irish Sea but north of Ireland in the open Atlantic, which just adds to the difficulties of locating it let alone considering a recovery.
Thanks MoM, that’s part way there!
Anything a Lin’ can do a Lanc’ hasta do better?
But could a Halifax do it as well? Anyone any thoughts/anecdotes?
I asked that question in post #11 of the thread “Halifax propeller pitch change during crash” where a crash site appears to reveal three feathered props and only one not feathered. No response then. Any takers now?
… Problem is the photos are a bit tricky to interpret …
Although not easy to imagine the 4 inch difference, the fastener layout at the panel join aft of the exhaust stubs is still clear enough in the top photo of post #25 to confirm MkII. Also sports the round style mirror fitted to LF363 for so long. (An engine change could easily account for a change in exhaust stubs, so they are not such a good indicator?)
Photos of the two other props. Again, no significant damage to the tips of the surviving ‘full’ blades.
The prop with the vertical blade has both visible blades apparently feathered. The other prop looks unfeathered. Potentially that makes three feathered props and begs the question, could a Halifax fly on just one engine? I think that question was raised for the Lancaster some time ago, but what about the Halifax?
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Excellent, Alex and Air Ministry, just what I was after.
Many thanks
Geoff
Rotol prop (foreground) and de-H the other two.
Anon.
Surely Rotol [early] (foreground), de-H, Rotol [late] (V6700)?
A crash in soft reclaimed marshland. Not a vertical impact from great height. No survivors so no first hand accounts.
Certainly no sign of curled blade tips; in fact all the blade tips show little, if any, distortion. It is easy to make the feathered situation fit the evidence in photo 1: the right hand blade upper-most and suffering least distortion. No view of the third blade, but the left hand blade is bent the wrong way for a Hercules under power.
The best three blades were straightened and made into a memorial. The fate of the others and the hubs is not known. Such a pity the hub internals were not inspected/recorded when taken apart, as you suggested in post #4.
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Peter
That was my first impression, but of course need to rule out the other possibility of ‘crash damage’.
Creaking door
A good point about all three. From the two blades showing in each photo, I would say yes.
(The blade being held in the second photo has been cut in two by the original salvage team, presumably to assist burial of such an awkwardly shaped item.)
Anon
That’s interesting and significant concerning blade strikes during taxying.
Pity the clock can’t be turned back, but it’s no longer possible to inspect the hubs.
What else did you find?
Nothing comes to mind, but the photo is not very clear to show any detail.