FAH 609 Buno 124715
Page 01/Friends of FAH 609 Folks:
Good Day!
We have a bit of good news about the future of this famous warbird. We’ ve been informed by diplomatic channels that “eventually will be placed back into shelter.”
What time frame “eventually” means is what we are trying to pint-point. Plz post all the photos that you may have of how it looked in mid 2010. We intend to keep the pressure on the current admin folks for some type of productive logistic move.
Pictured below is how the R/elevator area looked in Oct 2009 while still inside the FMAH hangar at Toncontin airport. Photo FAH 619.
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FAH 609 Buno 124715
“Friends of FAH 609” folks:
Good day!
Just a quick update for now on the saga for the protection and preservation of a valuable, rare & historical aircraft!
We are keeping the pressure on the FMAH museum folks. As expected they got a bit uptight about me & others speaking out for the old WW II/Korean Vet.
It seems now, that Buno 124715 is setting outside “temporarily” & will eventually will be moved inside a shelter. We’ll take this stament at face value for now but we’ll feel better once this valuable warbird is under a protective shelter.
Yes, cash is tight everywhere but we are not being part of the problem … we are looking for simple solutions for now. Like sending ’em a protective tarp & bungie cord for the cabin protection. They are probably scrambling this week-end to find out how to fix both ailerons in storage for over 2 years and finding the whereabouts of a 24 hr clock missing from the cockpit as well.
Some of the fellow Wixers, Connecticut Air & Space Museum have provided some valuable inputs about saving this aircraft & others from the elements. We thank of all you for it.
We would like to hear your opinions on how to clean & save the canopy damaged already by the AM sunrays and the elements. Next step, will be probably aileron restorations tips. Photo FAH 609 Buno 124715 while under shelter c. Oct 2009. Via 619.
Corsair Buno 124715
F4U Folks:
Good day!
Just an update of this famous warbird!
We are making slow progress via diplomatic channels to preserve, restore and move under shelter this valuable aircraft. We are that small voice of warbirds enthusiast that will speak for this particular aircraft.
It is indeed sad that the current museum admin folks (FMAH) are just letting it fall to pieces.
We’ll make other contacts with the Smithsonian, Seatlle Museum of Flight, Stratford Museum, Meiers Division of Germany and the Red Bull folks to see if they will be interested in helping out with the restoration/preservations talks with the current FAH admin folks before the elements and corrosion do their number!!
In the picture below as it seats today vigilant at the FMAH museum …but silently asking for help. We encourage you to let these museum folks know via the link below that we still have time to save this valuable aircraft from destruction.
XB-70 Accident Docs
Mr.G. Simons:
Good day!!
I think I’m clear by now about the extend of the damage initially done to the R/Wing Tip and then to the L/wing tip of the XB-70. I’m not sure at what phase on the investigation the NAA Chief Engineer was referring to when his comments were noted by the US historian.
Plz contact the webmaster via the e-mail contact of Secret-Heroes so you and the NASA tape-recording POC may compare notes. I agree with you, … without listening to what’s actually said in those tapes we only have one side of the story.According to the POC that tape-recording exist.
How long did the Learjet entire photo-session last?? At 09:26 (LT) your transcripts shows NASA 813 being vectored to the XB-70. Does this mean that NASA 813 had only seconds to get in position for the photo session??
FAH 609 F4U-5N Buno 124715:
F4U Folks:
While in other parts of the world efforts are being made to protect and preserve historic aircraft, the current museum admin folks (FMAH) seems to know very little about both subjects.
As pictured below, FAH 609 Buno 124715 c. June 2009 now with both ailerons missing waiting for possibly restoration before the end of the Mayan Calendar Dec 2012!…and then see what happens.
p.s Instead of sending donations to these folks you may let them hear your comments via the forum —–> http://www.catrachowings.com. A forum that is currently censoring all my request & comments about FAH 609!!
Tks in advance.
XB-70 Accident Docs
XB-70 Folks:
Good day!
Found the following info/data concerning the F-104N pilot Maj. Walker:
There was a NASA tracking station somewhere in the Mohave desert c. 1966 named “Beatty”. One of the operators poss Steven Levin confirms via tape recordings at the station that the F-104N pilot officially notified Mission Control at possibly EAFB that he was encountering turbulence at the time.
He further stated for the record “that he opposed this mission as it was to dangerous & had no scientific value.” This recording exist at NASA Dryden Ctr as it was sent to them the same day at the request of the NASA Monitor Station a person named Bill Houch.
The mentioned person listened to the tape several times before placing it in the mail bag for next day as requested.
http://area51specialprojects.com/xb70_crash.html
Ref: Secret Heroes.The XB-70 Valkyrie Story.
XB-70 Accident Docs
XB-70 Folks:
Good day!!
Understood that B/w is another F-104 of the many crashes fm EAFB. Calif. Plz post pics of the F-104N tail when you get a chance.
Posted on WiX the request of the name of the NAA XB-70 Chief Design Engineer and his exact view on this subject. Now, we know that there was some damage to the right wing tip seconds after the initial collision.
I found difficult to believe that an experienced F-104 pilot like Maj Walker was not maintaining a clear view/distance of the R/wing tip of the XB-70 during those final minutes of flight.
p.s The last transmission of the F-104N pilot was according to the US historian whom I’m also digging for his name & e-mail was that “the F-104 pilot was having problems holding position during the last minutes of the accident.” A what time I do not know but I will find out.
Tks in advance.
XB-70 Accident Docs
XB-70 Folks:
Good day!
A few more questions for now:
1. Do we have reports of the last minutes of transmission coming from the F-104N pilot Maj. Walker??
2. Found this picture from the accident area of the tail of the F-104N. Plz note that the left stab area shows minimum damage to the upper/lower surfaces.
3. Do any of the reports shows close-up pics details/other angles of the L/ horizontal stab of the F-104N?
Tks in advance
XB-70 Accident Docs
XB-70 Folks:
Good day!!
Tks for the valuable documents/data of the final moments of the XB-70 that tragic day. For now I have the following comments:
1.One of my questions has been partially answered. Col White was not aware during the first 10 seconds after the collision with the F-104N that he was the one in trouble.
2. Col. Cotton clearly stated in his radio transmissions to the XB-70 the word “verticals” in plural but Col. White did not hear the plural form.
3. Would this plural form would have made a difference the first 10 seconds after the collision?? The NAA Chief design engineer seems to think that way. I would get his name via Wix for you and maybe if he is still alive I would personally would ask him to expand on the subject of the wing tip switch.
4. One of my books shows a low resolution B/W of the landing gear panel and the 3 positions of the switch. I’m curious to know if you have a high resolution of the same area that shows the icon symbol of the middle position and what that icon means???
5.Also on the comments of Mr. G. Simmos, I think he meant to say that the F-104 first hit the R/Horizontal stab vs the L/Horizontal stab.
6. What does the first XB-70 flight data shows regarding the inflight test of the wingtip folds in the middle & fully down position?? Were there any problems controlling the aircraft at the fully down position?? Does anyone know??
Tks in advance!
XB-70 Accidente Docs
XB-70 Folks:
Interesting thread on a beautiful aircraft. We’ll dig some more info/photos later.
There was a comment on Wix sometime ago from an XB-70 historian stating the the NAA XB-70 Chief design engineer always believed that if the “Wing Tip Fold” switch located on the landing gear panel would have been actuated to the fully down position.. then the pilots would had probably had a chance to maintain some type of control during the first 10 seconds after the accident.
I bought couple of XB-70 books just to find out about the mentioned “Wing Tip Fold Switch”Wing but did not follow upon that particular theory.
Does anyone know something about it or would like to expand on this subject??
Tks in advance
FAH 609 Buno 124715
Blackcat54:
Good Day!!
Nice meeting you via www!
It’s indeed one famous aircraft. It was the last WW II piston fighter aircraft to have tangled with a FAS P-51 Cavalier & 2 FG-1Ds. All 3 bit the dust in one single day by one single pilot during the so called “Soccer War of July 1969” Capt. Fernando Soto Enriquez, (RIP).
Plz post pictures of the cabin that you may have taken & the ailerons as well. Same with other views that you may have. We know in Oct 2011, 2 ailerons are missing and couple of cabin instruments have been taking out.
Yes, the FAH Museum folks are cash strapped & they will welcome donations. But they also can do something very simple… place it back under shelter like it used to be before you send donations.
All for now!!
Latin American Aviation II
Bristol F2B Folks:
Good day!!
In the picture our Bristol F2B at Tegucigalpa, Honduras ready to take to the air c.1922. At the controls, an intrepid aviator & British pilot of WW I named Dean Ivan Lamb. He is also known to have flown with 4th SQ RFC & shooting down some 8 enemy aircraft.
To this date, despite of his flying days in one of the Mexican revolutions, Guatemala, Honduras, Brazil and others a single picture of this famous pilot has not emerged. He is known to poss have placed the code H-9 at the tail of the Bristol also. Photo via FMAH.
Does anyone has a picture or records of his whereabouts in England c. WW I??
Tks in advance