Parts from the Mickle Fell Stirling did end up in a Baldock scrapyard along with Tomahawk wreckage(ex larkhill ranges), Fairey Battle also ex range recovery and a few internal bits from Lanc S Sugar. It happened due to a clear out at RAF Henlow. It was a really big shock when Control Column ran the pics and story. Up until then I really though that we were doing a useful service by recovering wrecks for the RAF museum.
Although Dave Smith(hello and glad you are keeping an eye on the forum) kept some sites from High ground wrecks, the P38 was listed in RAF Mountain rescue listings which I managed to get a copy of, so I expect lots of other copies were in circualtion. The oddity about this wreck was the way a pic of the wing wreckage was published in WWIG mag. The large code letters were retouched on the pic and I found out when I visited the site and compared my own pics.
this is the nearest I could find
http://www.europeanaf.org/history/331gal.htm
Elliot, I have checked my records and also have no info on what happened to P5090. it was not reported in AAA mag, or Dave Smiths regular Aviation News column.
Have you tried local press appeals eg Press and Journal ?
Air Ground
Air Ground implies an AFISO operator on the radio which means information is given not instructions. Permission from Bruntingthorpe could be written as well as verbal.
I wish all those involved in the Vulcan project good fortune and fine weather.
100 percent positive feedback, really good comments from buyers, I cannot understand why anyone with a record like that should give a toss what is said on this forum.
Best be careful I would hate to set off another hissy fit.
OH you are a tease Nick…ok I will suggest the C54 was hauling engines as cargo?
Many Uk high ground wrecks were robbed by scrap dealers and locals re using bits for fences(P38 Plynlimon), farm trailers( C47 Prescellis), shooting butts (Blenheim at Bleasdale)etc long before the collectors got involved. Other items were just taken by souvenir hunters.
I would always say recover the items for safe storage and potential display.
Well said Richard, once a historic site with remains visible is known publically it will gradually be pilfered unless placed under high security. Humans have a hoarding instinct and take items even though they often have no idea what to do with the objects.
It is possible to make several displays from recovered unrestored items and by doing this the story of what happened is retold to a wider audience.
I belong to the viewpoint of planned recovery followed by display.
A few more pics on this thread including two really good pics of complete Lancasters in Canada
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=42862
Well done and I am pleased to see that WWIG is still active
U boat diver tragedy
A very sad post Creaking Door, as a former hobby diver I am astonished at how deep hobby divers operate these days.
Its even sadder when a suitable U Boat is already on the surface,unwanted. Redevelopment progress has resulted in the closure of a museum in Liverpool and a U boat is just waiting for a new home.
The report overlooks the profit from freight which is very important to carriers.
I am puzzled by the response to my post,perhaps it was misunderstood on what has been a tragic day and left many feeling sad.
It was a good pic. The B17 appears to be flying low…so what. I then go onto say that in itself low flying is not always a hazard, that it depends on the routine being flown. A steady low pass can be safe and I have witnessed such passes at around sixty air displays and estimate over 500 low passes during my former career in military air traffic. I have also watched some really unsafe low flying by both display and private pilots and on one occasion filed a complaint with the CAA.Shock , horror yes I filed a complaint. I will not let reckless flying go unreported. A small number of pilots have no common sense and need to realise that they are being watched.
Far from uninformed sniping at the activity of display aircrew I have some awareness of what is happening during a display as a pilot myself and also have knowledge of the effects of camera lenses because I now work as a full time photographer.
Great pic, its not low flying in itself which is a danger but the actual type of routine being flown. A steady low pass can be very safe.
A very good performance from Vladek Sheybal as a German officer in this film, especially when you consider in real life he was in a concentration camp and made two escape attempts. He also was an excellent Dr Doug Jackson in UFO.