quarry holes

And I know for certain that a quarry near Elgin on the West edge of Quarrywood was used to dump unwanted parts from the nearby scrapyard. contents include turrets from a variety of bombers which certainly included Lanc..because I found makers plates on the surface. It used to be a wide open tangle of wires, hydraulic lines and twisted metal bits. About ten years ago the council dumped soil on top and levelled it off due to a worry that kids would get trapped in the mess. So it can be true.

For a similiar experience read the book about the protracted recovery of Peter Vachers Hurricane from India. It highlights the multiple layers of Red Tape which can be as tricky as hacking thru a rain forest. Certain sections of the Indian press do not appear to be very accurate either but that can happen anywhere…even on this forum!

What is in a name?

If the digging up of aircraft or removing them from remote high ground crash sites is henceforth called recovery and not archaeology would that not keep the academics from getting upset?
For the qualified archaeologists on this thread I would say that the sites of several official non aviation digs I have visited were left in terrible condition after the dig.Litter including large sheets of plastic, stones strewn around, holes not filled. So calling all the aviation recovery teams useless at what they do is unfair. All groups have bad days paid or unpaid.

recover or leave?

For MBV…most buried or undersea remains are under threat once the first discovery has been made. Legal protection can only be enforced by a 24 hour security gaurd. Or the building of an on site protective barrier.Looters, scrapmen and souvenir hunters will pillage a site until the historical value has been degraded and it then becomes only scrap.

It is wishful thinking to believe that the acedemic view is held by most people.
So I am all for recovery, storage in a secure place with eventual display.

Historical truth WW2

So this time a re issued theory has gained a lot more publicity than is usual.Many readers of this forum will have enjoyed a magazine called After the Battle. My knowledge of wartime events has been revised on many occasions when writers of articles in this magazine have demolished many long held beliefs about what actually happened .Other magazines are also available of course although ATB deals with a wide range of events not just aviation.

security

I was caught up in the alert. My camera gear had to be transferred to my hold baggage when I returned from overseas and still had a UK internal flight .
The staff at Manchester were all very patient and trying very hard to keep cheerful which in turn was helping keep passengers calm,well done to them.

As far as putting stuff in the hold like cameras and laptops,now that all are aware of the situation there should not be a problem. You need a sturdy suitcase and can protect items using bubble wrap. Of course all your kit needs insuring. A memory stick can be used to back up critical laptop contents.And as a professional photographer I will have a back up plan if my suitcase goes missing.

And I would agree that the cabin baggage being carried on under old allowances had reached a size and weight that is really not safe in overhead containers. I did see a person injured when a bag fell onto his head.

loch enoch politics

The LOch Enoch Whitley affair was a huge mess.I would advise anyone to keep well away from this site because they could easily get into all sorts of aggro from the same individuals who stirred up a hornets nest to get restrictions made on the site.

I recall a time when RAF stores chappies used to roll full cylinders of breathing air off the back of trucks until one day a cylinder hit the ground at an angle…….the valve was badly damaged and the air came rushing out. It took off across the sports pitch like a rocket. Luckily it was not a Wednesday, no one hurt.
We treated full diving air cylinders with as much care as you might give to a live bomb.