So if they have this competence, why are they buying SU-35s again?
I’m not saying that the Chinese are not smart enough. I think it has more to do with cultural norms and practices that don’t gel well with western style innovation, and initiatives. You can’t build around a culture of intellectual theft, and build a culture of forward innovation at the same time.
Again that’s not racial or ethnic, im showing you some of the issues.
Furthermore if I have a choice between problem solving an engineer issue or goverment, sponsored cheating, what cheap method do you think they will use.

The Chinese government has worked miracles, getting they Chinese military this far, but it must be understood, that to be on top changes are necessary.

Listen, you can put lipstick on a pig, and its still a pig. The fact still remains that the J-20 is seriously underpowered.
By the time the Chinese build a reliable supercruise engine, then the U.S. will move on to advent/variable bypass.
There is no nationalism here. No need to get personal. The Chinese have a way to go on engine tech. Now if we can agree to this, maybe we can accept some humility, and appreciation from the Sino crowd. The F-35 was not easy to build. No amount of pie in the sky, pixie dust nationalism will allow you to skip the hard work it takes to build these planes.

I nominate this for post of the year. Lol

http://www.dsphotographic.com/g2/singapore/singaporeZoo/Baboons+-004.jpg.

Picture above of a squadron of J-20s on egress

htmlQUOTE=MSphere;2253633]Supercruise alone is unimportant, it is a tool, not a goal.. The goal is the supersonic range. If you are
able to achieve decent supersonic ranges even at the cost of occasional use of reheat, then it’s still OK. We need to wait for more data to make a conclusion.. Besides that, something tells me that this is not the final engine layout for the J-20.

These are exactly the questions I am always asking whenever the F-35 is being discussed.

F-22s lack range to effectively operate over that region, IMHO. Either their bases are easily within reach of the ballistic missiles or they won’t make it to the engagement area and back with more than few mins left for the actual fight.[/QUOTE]

Msphere

1. Unless you make the thing a flying gas can, im not sure relying on reheat will work

2. The F-35 atleast has HOBs, and the fact that its not the Aerospace version of a baboon, with its buttocks exposed to radar.

3. Patrolling a tanker track would work.
1 Aegis, 4 F-22s or 4 F-35s guarding a tanker flying figure 8s might work

IMO, the J-20 is a Gen 5 replacement for the J-8 II.

In PLAAF usage, it has the combat radius, speed and sensors to stop aircraft from intruding into Chinese airspace. And the chin-mounted IR sensor could identify the exhaust plumes of low flying cruise missiles.

In PLANAF usage, it would provide DCA for Chinese SAGs. And could be used to eliminate F/A-18s so the H-6s/JH-7s can get close enough to launch AShMs against a US CSG.

1. Where is your speed with no super cruise?

2. What does it do if bounced be F-35C or B?
Or any fighter that has maneuverability greater than a F-16? No SC to run, no rear aspect LO to hide. To big to turn?

3. How do you protect the H6s when A F-35 would likely comtemp engagement, and kill them anyway?

4. Heavy F-18 and F-35 jamming.

5. If all ELSE fails the U.S. could always task F-22s to help the carrier.

:rolleyes:
means, if kinematics are modelled that simplistically, just how complex do you think the EM modelling is?

*Breaks out the crayons*

Im upset Amiga! You brought crayons, and not glutter and glue sticks?
Id like to look in the archives, and see how many questioned if the Rand report model was accurate. Either way, is the EM accurate? No, its classified. Is the radar inaccurate ? No sir thats classified too.
So we both agree that the simulation isn’t.100% military clearance accurate.
With that said is it that hard to believe that the F-35 could possibly dominate?