Don’t Israeli SUFAS have all of that gear?
The new clarion call of the F-35. Support crowd “meow”
What difference does it make to have harm or not? To have a jammer or not?
Jammers and HARMs wont save you from an advanced IADS. WHEN 4th generation fighters are engaged, they must drop the gas bags, and bombs to evade. This is a mission kill.
Instead of having 1 dedicated jammer, 1sead, 1 for counter air pprotection and
The extra tanker support, why not just use an F-35 that does all of this with a cheaper cost? How will you justify
Using 4 + aircraft at 80mil+l versus 1 aircraft at 80 mill?
The Calvary charge is antiquated Bill, let it go!
Im not trying to be condescending, but just pointing out that using legacy fighters and tactics, would not be only a tactical error, but a doctrinal error.
Its like asking “why doesn’t the Army like to use Cavalry charges any more?”
Bill are you actally reading what your posting?
1. Package Q revealed how day time strikes over contested air space pans out for the usaf.
2. The strike package had sead wild weasel support and F-15 cover and still went **** up. Because….
3. Dissimilar types at differing fuel states, mission kills from f-16s having to dump ordinance when being shot at. Dash speeds, and fuel states again being affected by heavy bomb loads.
The airforce concluded that it needed a stealthy type of strike fighter, that wouldn’t be mission killed from being engaged by pop up sam threats.
They concluded that having so many dissimilar types at verying fuel states, and abilities didn’t help.
Even the fighter escort will be at a serious disadvantage here, because F-15s dont like sam kill boxes, and as mentioned before the wild weasels didn’t have the persistence to keep up.
In conclusion
-All or the majority of the strike package should have the ability to self escort.
-All should have the same fuel fraction to simplify planning
-All should be stealthy
-All should retain maneuver envelope when engaged to prevent a mission kill when engaged
-even the fighters tasked with escorts should have a comparable fuel fraction and abilities. It simplifies planning and helps communication.
This is why having 4 + types of fighters
Is bad and 1 joint fighter type is good.
Not to mention the fact stealth in itself is a force multipler.
He doesn’t like me, and bans me from aviation week on site. Ive never seen such vitriol in a professional. Any way back on topic.
This proves that the F-35 gets the job done with 1/2 the assets.
I recall a general saying that it would take 4+ F-35s to kill the same high end threat as 2 F-22s.
How many legacy platforms would it take?
Lets imagine 1 Tor-m1 1 s-300 and a 4 ship of su-30. Lets say the goal in a red forces C4 command building, of some kind.
Rafael strike package?
F-15E strike package?
F-18E/ strike package?
F-35?
F-22
Allow your brillant arm chair strategist mind to wonder.
How many legacy assets versus 5th gen?
LoL, so low observabe whiness about the F-35 price, and calls it a farce when
You need 3-4 airframes to do the job of 1 F-35? The irony is your finally starting to get it. Its 2x F-35s versus 2xF-15s 2X growlers + extra tanker and awacs.
We are making progress Billy
Im gonna call it the HOBS movement.
Honesty on Blogs. Lets do it
Its almost as if a state welfare mentality, has migrated into defense thinking.
That’s what it was once thought, but it turned out that opposite is true. FAF flight profiles are much more stressful than USN/USMC ones and many Hornet airframes are actually falling well short of targeted 6000 hour service life.
‘Overkill’ is just right amount of kill.
You cant have it both ways, You cant continue to defer your defense to others and Then cry about sovereignty.
If Europe isnt ready to become the 51st state, then they must take controll of there own defense and destiny.
I want to talk a congressman into making Nato members pay a High tribute to the U.S. for defense.
The words of Sun Tzu are as true today as they were 2000+ years ago. “Let he who would have peace prepare for war. “
If anyone has designs on your country and can see you’re prepared to fight over it they are more likely to leave you alone than if you are obviously underarmed.
I wonder if the Polish feel the same way as western Europe? And can’t tell if its arrogance or naivety sweeping throughout western Europe. But maybe if you didnt have a babysitter you would care more.
http://www.terma.com/press/news-2012/f-35-multi-mission-pod-on-display/ pod already exists that is the right size and keeps LO.