Great photos of a sad retirement witha very dull colour scheme IMHO 🙁
Would be the right place to post some image of the much prettier training command scheme (red-white-gray) or the short-lived and even more brilliant silver-dayglo livery worn when entering service!
Fabio
Perhaps you’ve already seen this page? Cheers Fabio
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~garys/gallery/blkknits/index.htm
That helps…
Thank you Dave, at least I can see there are no special squadron markings on the tail. I’d never thought it could be so difficult to find some image of this Hercules unit…
Cheers
Fabio
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So…. No one can help??
707A WD280 Red 14 Jul ’51 – Preserved Melbourne
Right, but only from sometime in 1952! WD280 was rolled-out in july 1951 in what is usually termed salmon pink and only later was repainted red: look at this two movie stills, the first is from the 1951 SBAC show and the overall colour is clearly different (lighter) than the second taken at the 1952 show, the key is the contrast with the red center of the fuselage roundel and the finflash.
When I preached for a colour image of this first paintjob I was not joking: I’ve never seen one and it’s often confounded with the pure orange of the second 707 WZ736 so we still need a definitive answer.


Which led to Avro test pilot Samual Eric ‘Red’ Eslers’ nickname.
Ex 120 sqn Coastal Command and with a DFC, he was prematurely killed at the age of 31 in the 707A at Blackbush on the 30 Sept ’49.
‘pretty pointless’ info maybe but still worth pointing out the human cost of research flying.
The only write-off in the 707 series was the first one VX784, not the Avro 707A, and it was painted silver… perhaps Eslers’ nickname had another origin?
My mistake!
definately 100% taken at Cottesmore BoB display in September 1961,
I re-checked the caption and it is actually taken at Cottesmore, while the aircraft was operated by RAE Bedford. Apologies for the confusion 😮
Cheers
Fabio
This one is very pointed, Cottesmore BoB display 1961, it would have been interesting to see it fly in, which one is it, I didn’t note it’s number at the time.
Hi Pete,
this is WZ736, the second airframe preserved in the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry. Here you can see it in color, the image is taken from the wonderful book “Military Aircraft of the ’60s” and captioned as september 1961 at Cottesmore BoB display.
Regards
Fabio Beato

Now if someone had a colour photo of the alleged salmon-pink WD280 at roll-out… 😀
Nice forum
Thank you for the input, Alex.
Hope I’ll get some replies since postings are quite far apart :confused:
Regards
Fabio
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At the end of the day, the B.P. P.111 is at a museum and not been scrapped like most aircraft are. Regardless of where or how it’s kept, it is in good hands and the future of the aircraft is looking bright, all be it some distance away. The aircraft will eventually be put inside and until then, we will, and are, keeping close tabs on the condition of the airframe………it will not get in any worse a state than it already is!!
Hello Robmac
I sent you a private message about the P.111a a few days ago. Could you please check your inbox?
Thank you and best regards
Fabio Beato
We are currently looking at plans to put the P111 inside and completely restore her again but these things take time.
Hello Robmac,
You mentioned a future restoration work on the P111a: do you know if this involves “only” the structure and paint job or the aircraft is missing some important parts? For example is the cockpit still complete? I’ve never seen a walkaround of this exhibit and just liked to know what are the general condition aside from a rather ‘sad’ look.
Best Regards
Fabio Beato
Thank you for your replies. I’ll see if I can get a look at the Putnam book through a friend.
Regards
Fabio Beato
Albert,
thank you for sharing that rare photo!
Do you mean you actually shot it or was it purchased ‘second-hand’?
Bye
Fabio
Hi, I have some photocopies of the relevant chapter in the Vickers Putnam book. I don’t know whether they are the same, however surely not very clear!
Could be useful if it’s not too much fuss for you.
Thanks
Fabio