I think that observing the two minute silence is a very personal thing and I was pleased to read DaveB’s comment: ” I find that I need to remove myself from the office, to go and have a private moment of quiet somewhere else”. I feel the same way and find standing stiffly in a room full of people trying to avoid eye contact for two minutes, well…..awkward. Unfortunately not all employers are terribly good at organising this sort of thing and loud announcements followed by loud ringing fire bells has a touch of coercion at times. The best employer I came across for this was a Magistrates Court which kept one of the courts clear for 11.00 and gave their employees the choice, if they wanted to observe the silence they were welcome to use the room which I thought was a thoughtful touch. The court room was quiet and the atmosphere was more conducive to reflection than the office.
Oh well, now wait to be flamed by the ‘you ought to’ brigade……
Here she is, late 1996, N709RR. Cruddy photo but you get the idea 🙂
A C-123 starred in ConAir as well. Forget the registration but she was stored at Reno-Stead for a while painted in some sort of fictitious US Marshalls scheme.
Thanks for the “Guardian” link, interesting article. Thanks also, as always, for the entertainment as an otherwise sensible thread degenerates into the usual MOL HateFest.
As an ordinary solo and ocasional traveller with Ryanair I find MOL’s stance quite interesting. All my flights have been for return trips of not more than a couple of days and, apart from photographic equipment, my carry-on bag contains a wash bag and just a few clothes plus a good book. I purchase my ticket on the internet and as far as Ryanair are concerned that seat is booked and that is it.
If the cabin baggage allowance was increased to 10kg that would cover all the European journeys that I make and I would never need to check anything in. Not sure if anyone picked up on it but it seems the intention is that I can print off my own boarding card at home and by-pass any check-in except at the gate itself after having gone through the usual security checks in the terminal. Personally I would welcome that, I *hate* having to add time to take queuing at check-in into account. I also *hate* late departures due to someone’s bags being removed from the aircraft because they manage to get lost between check-in and the gate!
I also *like* low fares 🙂
Have to agree with many posters here, there are a lot of what-ifs and issues to sort out before this can work and MOL does need to have done his homework regarding his customer base however there is logic in what he is proposing, to some travellers it could be a benefit.
Oh yes, this quote:
“which is exactly why the job of the airline pilots are far less respected by most people and is why flying is no longer a dream nor is it exciting”
Sorry, the logic is totally lost on me. I respect airline pilots for being able to fly a complex machine from A to B in a safe, punctual and comfortable manner. Whether a pilot flies for BA or Ryanair makes no odds to me as a passenger. Presumably you are saying that if I pay more for my ticket I will respect the pilot more and be more excited?
Of course, if you price it out of my range then flying will be a dream – exactly that!!!
Until someone posts better shots I hope these will help show the sequence:
Thanks for the portrait, I am in your photo of 655’s jet pipes, looking grumpily at the camera with flyaway silver hair, immediately to the left of the chap in the green coat on the right hand side of the picture 🙂 (My five seconds of fame)
Michael Baldock
From Guildford saw the Spitfire flying North however very distant (had camera in garden just in case) but never even heard the Dak 🙁
Michael
Thanks Paul, I missed your original thread because I was returning home from the USA that day, was a bit dozy!
Anyway, looks interesting and would be good to get on the old airfield again after nine years….with a bit of music thrown in 🙂
Michael
You Are Not Alone!
Is anyone else fascinated by abandoned aviation grounds?
Absolutely!
My web site: http://www.ghostbase.org
One day I will get off my a– and get it all completed 😉
Would love to get into Eastern Europe and see some of the old bases there.
Michael Baldock
Great set of photos Flood, thanks for sharing. FAST is really coming on leaps and bounds.
Regarding the Gloster replica there is a public golf club just up the road with a public car park. I parked there back in November and then walked to the roundabout, no problems with security at all. Guess my silver/white hair is paying off at last 😉
Wasn’t part of the film going to be shot at Dunsfold Park, formerly BAe Dunsfold?
Another…..
Even worse close up…..
Charlwood Jaguar
Another view of the Jag at Charlwood.
334_Pegasus, that photo you posted here was uploaded to A.Net and is marked copyright Michael Baldock who happens to be me. Thought you might like to know that 😉
SWWAPS
I live fairly close to Lasham and do visit from time to time.
The leading light of this collection is Bob Coles who can be found in the museum hut most weekends and if you get to speak to him he is a very engaging character who clearly is a “wheeler dealer” and very capable of trading and obtaining anything that he decides that he wants. The list of people that he has engaged with is like a “who’s who” of the aviation preservation scene. I found him to be a very likeable character indeed.
The problem seems to be threefold. The Society relies upon contributions from the public, sales of merchandise as well as the owner’s own funds and I don’t think that they make a great deal out of this, funds seem to be very tight.
Secondly there are a few volunteers but SWWAPS seems to be a very tight knit group and for whatever reason they don’t seem to be very receptive to people who suddenly turn up out of the blue and offer lots of help….and I understand that there have been a lot of these over the years.
The third problem is the lack of covered shelter for the exhibits and this is probably the biggest as far as SWWAPs is concerned. A couple of years ago the Lasham airfield authorities decided that the boundary around the collection intruded too far into their operating area and SWWAPS lost quite a lot of their space. I think there is a genuine desire on the part of SWWAPS to construct some sort of hangar or shelter for their rarest exhibits however I understand that this is now impossible owing to the proximity of the collection to the active runway area.
I don’t want to appear to be an apologist for SWWAPS but I do think that the issues here are more complex than appear on the surface and publicly stating that the situation is “disgusting” and “this is not preservation” is probably not terribly helpful to these guys especially considering the almost insurmountable challenges that they face. This is a private collection and had Bob Coles not taken the initiative a few years ago many of these airframes would not be here today. I would dearly love to see all these aircraft out of the rain and not corroding as reported but it just seems to me that the owners really need help and perhaps we need to find a creative way of offering this that preserves their original aspirations but at the same time preserves what needs to be preserved.
Just my tuppence worth!
Michael Baldock
EXCELLENT! finaly, O’leary gets the kick in the teeth he deserves
I could not agree more. Good grief, the man has helped reduce air fares in the UK and Europe to the point where unwashed peasants like myself can actually afford to fly to places we could not go to before more than once a year using inefficient state carriers whose entire reason for existence seemed to be to pamper wealthy businessmen!
Oh *PLEASE*!
I certainly would not have given Ryanair much chance of winning this case. However you look at it it was direct discrimination against a disabled person and with disability discrimination legislation being so strong these days there really and rightly could only be one outcome.
Looking at it from Mr O’Leary’s point of view I can see that there is a mismatch when a passenger purchases a ticket for £10 (after tax etc) but it costs the airline £18 to provide a wheelchair and the person to push it thus instantly losing the airline £8! Would you run a business like that? The hard economics of running a lo-cost airline are clearly starting to have an effect upon other organisations connected with civil aviation as well and I wonder what the outcome will be.
Can anyone say what happens in the USA with South West Airlines in this situation? Do they provide wheelchairs for disabled passengers and who ultimately pays – the disabled passenger, the carrier or the airport? Would be interesting to know.
BTW, I happen to think that Michael O’Leary is a very talented but ruthless businessman. I don’t agree with his instantly slapping 50p on each ticket in response to this ruling, does rather feel like a case of toys being thrown out of the cot!
Quote: “I know some airports say that photography is not allowed (Dublin for instance) but I never saw a sign there when I was there on the same trip a few weeks back. Nothing you can do though”
Oops! I was at Dublin a couple of weeks ago and happily snapped off a couple of digital shots of EI-CJC when disembarking and none of the Ryanair crew or ramp staff took any notice. Also when waiting to fly back I took several photos from the terminal of various planes and again I know I was being watched by staff and no-one objected; I am always very open about the fact I am taking photos. Perhaps my silver hair and respectable demeanour helps 😉
I have been seriously hassled on several occasions with airfield photography in Europe and the USA over the years and if challenged these days I just say I am sorry, plead ignorance, ask very directly what they want to do about it and aim to walk away with as little hassle as possible. Good luck if you want to make a meal of it with asking for security employee’s names etc, I really don’t think it is worth the effort. I just talk to people and make a judgement about how serious they are, always try to see their point of view. If someone is obviously on a power trip then I am not going to give them the satisfaction of challenging them.