That “Streetfighter” USN project above is nearly exactly the same as the Super Seacat ferry that does runs between Belfast and Scotland. The terminal is 3 miles from my house in Belfast and I swear thats exactly the same boat with a new coat of paint.
Not CSAR, just normal search and rescue for stranded climbers etc. And the spec ops is for moving their Ranger Wing special forces to terrorist incidents in the country and then in an assault role.The helicopters aren’t going aroad (probably)The Dauphins are about to go out of service within a few months.
Why is the NH90 not on the list?
Because its an unproven helicopter. The government doesn’t want its fingers burnt again due to the major problems in being a launch customer for the Dauphin, which were awful in IAC service (not their fault, they were over specified with unecessary kit). Same thing nearly happened with the S92 purchase as they would have been a launch customer.
Does the Irish Air Corps realy know what they want?
Its not want the IAC Army and Naval Service want. Its what the government is willing to give them.The IAC know exactly what they want but the government is just buying these helicopter to keep them busy for a while.The EC145 is favoured as it doesn’t have an image problem like a Blackhawk which appeases certain political groups.
The combination specified allows for initial training, SAR, Medevac and moving their spec ops unit but not much else.Ireland could make good use of a dozen or more ULH and MLH if purchased but that will not happen for years to come
50 million Euros max available for the purchase of 6 helicopters, 2 for training purposes EC135 sized and 4 helicopters in utility/medium lift config able to carry 8 troops, capable of abseiling from both sides simultaneously and able to carry machine guns int he door positions and they must be new, not refurbished second hand stuff no matter how good and they will be mostly taksed with special forces troops movements and civil aid functions and probably won’t be seen outside the country.It also has to have a proven track record since the IAC was a launch cutomer for the Dauphins in its service that have proved disasterous due to over modification with uneeded bells and whistles.
The Irish government really doesn’t want to pay for military stuff and percentage of GDP spent on defence is only around 0.7% in Ireland despite its exceedingly large EEZ to patrol aswell as UN commitments. 4 Blackhawks are the prefered option by the troops for airlift whilst the government seems to be trying for an EC135/EC145 combination.
Any suggestions?
How about hurrying up with my AWAC!!! :p
If not I would be satisfied with a Nimrod in the future, please…… sir
I only have two frivolous suggestions
1. Its had its tyres nicked and is up on blocks in a Liverpool housing estate :diablo:
2. The groundcrew got bored and decided to set up a picture specifically to keep aviation enthusiasts intrigued 😀
I’d like to see someone figure out what to do with the Buccaneer, XV361, that is in the recently closed Langford Lodge museum in Northern Ireland. I live in belfast and never knew that place existed! It flew into the museum but I don’t know if it can fly back out but it should be in suitable condition. It would be nice to see it in the skies of Northern Ireland.
The whole thing has shades of the Vela incident in 1979
Probably has better combat capability than a Super Hornet :p
Does anyone have an explanation for all the prefixes to the specialised Hercules variants? The AC, DC, EC and WC are obvious but what about H,J, K,L ,M etc. Are they just alphabetical or do they stand for something.
Well, since I’m pretty sure we are talking about the Irish Air Corps here, I will fit my purchases around their requirements.They have lots of retiring aircraft about so I’ll cut them out and I’m left with
8xPC9s (brand new)
2xCN235MP (great condition, only for MP, no transport ability)
1xGulfstream IV (brand new VIP transport)
Plus these other aircraft operating for government agencies
1xDefender 4000 operated on behalf of police by IAC
1xEC135 operated on behalf of police by IAC
1xSquirrel 2 operated on behalf of police by IAC
4xS61s operated by CHC Helicopters for Coast Guard SAR
Wish list-
Long range troop transport capabilities to support peacekeeping forces
Extra fixed wing maritime patrol capability
Troop transport helicopters, medium lift
Possible need for ship based helicopter for new class of blue water ships
Air policing ability
Overland SAR
Possbile choices-
C130H
CN295s
NH90
A109s
Surplus F16s
Surplus F3 Tornadoes
Leased Gripens
Funds-
Possibly as much as 100 million Euros due to the persistant rumours of purchases of S92, EC135 and EC145 helicopters but more likely to be half that amount, if lucky.
Problems-
Government openly hostile to military aquisitions but willing to send troops abroad on UN peacekeeping missions and to be part of new EU force.Troops are well trained and motivated but often have to “make do” with some old or obsolete equipment, or not have enough modern equipment to go around.The IAC are probably the most disregarded of the services which causes problems for the other 2 services due to lack of air support of all kinds.
Solutions fitting the above requirements on a card plase and you can operate no more than 25 aircraft due to the facilities available at airbases.Consider things such as using foreign pilot, paramilitary and civil assistance missions conflicting with military mission and the need to patrol a huge maritime area.Equipment also needs to be of NATO standard for EU compatability reasons.
Here in Northern Ireland we use 2 Williams tuned Renault Espace people carriers for motorway patrol.They are faster than pretty much anything else on the island but if they break we have to send them back to Williams to get them fixed because of all the racing add-ons 🙁
Not so glamourous but they certainly do the job and have room for lots of kit
We did the UFO bit before.The Iranian incident was never solved and is still down as one of the most convincing and best recorded cases ever.This case looks fairly good.Many airforces other than the americans are very open about UFOs.The French and the Spanish are quite good at making their investigation tranparents to the public.
Yeah, that was the problem with them.They had extra armour and more ammo stored in the bomb bay.They were generally war wary B17s and then got converted but when the real bombers dropped their loads these escorts couldn’t keep up with the getaway.One famous mission though was the destrucion of a P38 Lightning that had landed in Italy and one of their leading acesused it to sneak up on unsuspecting straglers and shoot them down.Worked quite successfully for a while until intelligence services caught on to it.One of the commander of a bomber that was shot down by him ended up being given a chance to catch him at it by pretnding to be a stragling B17.It took a while but evetually both of them managed to shoot each other down in the same fight over the Med but where rescued.There is also a side line to it that they found out that the italians girlfriend was actally in allied territory and she was called Gina so the bomber crew painted her name on the side of the plane.When the Italina turned up to “escort” them the bober commander started telling them about this sweet girl called Gina who was doing some very naughty things.The italian blew his stack and they shot each other down.The full story is in the book “the Fork Tailed Devil” by Martin Caidin which is about the P38.
I say we call it Donkey Kong