ForkTailedDevilFlood, you didnt happen to be watching BBC1 on Saturday at about 6 o’clock?
ForkTailedDevilFlood, you didnt happen to be watching BBC1 on Saturday at about 6 o’clock?
ForkTailedDevilWho’s idea was it to include the Bell anyway.It serves no practicle purpose and when this film was made there must have been a few people in cast and crew who had been in the war and new its inclusion was wrong.So why did they bother?
ForkTailedDevilHow big is the market for replicas and what are prices like?
ForkTailedDevilDon’t know about the payload of the drone.The AQM-34’s though make me like drones.At least they have some character compared to Predators and Global Hawks which buzz around with little propellor engine or at altitude out of reach of the enemy.AQM-34s got down adn dirty and did some damage by themselves without being asked to, so you have to love the attitude.How come they aren’t still around because they seem to be quite advanced and very adaptable.This site is also fantastic.
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-34.html
Anyway, the drones were firing of AGM65 Mavericks in 1971, and we get all excited when a Predator fires a Hellfire.They performed all sorts of reconmissions with distinctiona and also performed attack, and a few A2A kills aswell.I hate modern UAV but all hail the AQM34 family.
ForkTailedDevilDoes no1 find the Vietnam drones interesting 🙁
ForkTailedDevilI haven’t finished the book yet. There are so many differnt people and organisations working on the problem and seemingly getting somewhere on it that it seems someone must have cracked it, whether we know about it or not. As with many advanced technologies we have today much of it was started by the Nazis (probably too much of it) seem to have done a lot of wrk on it but the British seemed to have snatched a lead on them, same with the jet engine.The Windhund caught my attention though.It seems to me a great idea for a sensor, you can’t do anything about being a flying chunk of metal because that what changes the polarity in the air.Only plastic or wooden planes could fool it, it think.Pity there isnt more info on it.
ForkTailedDevilOk, how embarassing to shoot of your own rotor. Remind me of the WW2 british warship that torpedoed itself. Cant remember the name right now. It was in the North Atlantic and the gyro froze and it did an about turn and ran into the ship.
ForkTailedDevilok, excerpts from the article
“Among the items seized from Chinese “scrap dealers” were fully operational encryption devices, submarine propulsion parts, radar systems, electron tubes for Patriot guided missiles, even F-117A Stealth fighter parts. Many of these parts, sold as “surplus,” were brand new.”
” 16-month Customs Service investigation that ended earlier this year resulted in the interception of surplus military parts worth $157 million”
“Electronics that guide bombs and aircraft gunnery, sensitive communication and navigation gear, cryptographic equipment, even hardware that allows U.S. fighter jets to jam antiaircraft missiles” These were miscoded and made available for sale
dozens of items had been wrongly coded. “Bomb, gen. purpose,” for instance, had been given the same demilitarization code as a desk chair–“A.” Similarly miscoded were “sight, rocket launcher,” “controller, missile,” and “missile guidance set.” All should have been coded “D”–for destruction. “This is the computer memory for a Tomahawk [cruise] missile!” one of the Pentagon experts exclaimed, pointing to one item on the reporter’s shopping list. “This should be classified! This is the brains of the missile!”
” Investigators discovered that a Chinese-owned scrap company was legally buying surplus materiel from Burton and from the Robins DRMO. Further inquiries revealed a score of Chinese dealers operating from coast to coast. Although no proof developed that they acted as agents for China, that did raise concerns. In a memo to his Chinese boss in California, the buyer in Georgia called Robins “the candy store.” The base, he wrote, “will fill our needs into the next century,” according to an investigator who has seen the note.”
This is my fav though
“The other person upset by Sparks’s Cobras was Ron Garlick, in Montana, who telephoned the Pentagon to see what was going on. The call was lateraled to investigator Dave Barrington. Garlick was concerned over the Sparks seizures, he said, because he, too, was building Cobras–and he saw no reason to give his up. According to Barrington’s notes, Garlick said he “had a significant amount of intact weapons and weapons systems.” Garlick confirms this. “Mine was fully armed,” he says of his chopper. “I had rockets on it and machine guns. I was out there shooting coyotes with them.”
Shooting coyotes in a Cobra!!!!!!!!!!!
“In another, bound for Shanghai, agents found 37 separate inertial guidance devices for the F-117A Stealth fighter and F-111 bomber. New, the devices had cost the government $21,759,400”
“One part that Aviarms was selling was listed as an “F-117A fire control memory.” Asked how Israel could have obtained surplus parts for the U.S. F-117 Stealth fighter, the manager checked his computer. Aviarms was brokering it for an Israeli company, which got it from a German company, he said. He could trace it no further.”
If you don’t find the US Government throwing away stuff like this by accident disturbing, I don’t know what planet you are on.
ForkTailedDevilDid you read the article? I thought that F117 spare parts turning up on the open market was interesting and the guy with 88 Cobra airframes that were legal and potentially flyable was also a great idea, cos they are great things to have on the civilian market. He says he would be using them for logging.The kick of the article is that the Pentagon department that is meant to make sure military surplus in the USA is either disabled in such a way to make it non dangerous b4 sale or organising destruction of the surplus is failing in its job.They sold of about $300million dollars of kit last yer but lose a lot of what they are given to sell or destroy included weapons systems, encrypted radios, ECM gear etc.
ForkTailedDevilMy suggestion of CN295 was for the transport requirement. They only come new though and a hercules would be cheaper. L159s in an A2A role dont exceed the PC9 equipped with missles by enuff to warrant purchase. For such a small quantity its just complicating types. PC9s/Missles in concert with an AEW platform should narrow the performance gap enuff.Any other posters want to give me any figures on that.But for deterrant/morale boosting I dont think you could do better on you budget.
The problem with Blackhawks is that are fairly expensive and too big for simple utility use but you can’t fit a lot of kit in them in a heavy lift role.A big/small mix might be a better idea.If its European you want then its time to get in touch with Eurocopter then.
ForkTailedDevilOk, heres a list of apologies and explanations from myself.Note that I posted this on the other forum as wel and they wanted info on the surplus Czech L159s
1.Ok, I don’t enjoy degrading the competence of any personel in the firing line, though I will often insult their kit that government bean counters foist upon them.There are no proper or true complaints that I have ever seen to level at the Irish military branches. They are all highly professional and have huge experience in UN policing mission in a wide range of environments, and their members here can be proud and their public should be to.Speaking of your government bean counters, admonishment of military personel about comments made on this public forum, especially since it is fairly anonymous, is a ridiculous state of affairs.
2.Seriously though, your OPSEC ideas are a bit over the top.On the AFM boards I really just wanted to point out that not disclosing if the IAC can fly at night is fairly ridiculous.Ok, also disclosing if a US Navy Hercules is sitting at Blandonnel is not something that should be looked upon with disdain.It is fairly simple to find the locations of military aircraft on the net or otherwise.Telling fellow board members where to indulge their interest in aircraft is not a crime and no responsibility for damages or misuse should fall on you for this.Being a train spotter and distributing train timetables to friends does not mean that you would be at fault for the Madrid bombings.
3.OK I, buggered up on the base distribution. Also I got the name of the new EU reaction force wrong but you know what I meant.
4.Some of my ideas might sound silly, like the Hercules, but other airforces have put them into practise. For instance the Czech Republic leases its Gripens (i’m not saying you should) and thats how it affords a modern air combat force for defense and air policing.Ireland is a first world country with great army and naval forces for its size but the airforce, which in todays world is probably the most important part of the military, has been sadly neglected.
5.lordinajamjar.Was that you that put in the first reply to the original post? It was gladly accepted but disappeared after a while
6.I am a Man U fan. How about some emotional support at a time like this.
7.About ORBAT, there didnt seem to be many replies forthcoming after I posted. I thought using ORBAT had confused some ppl as it isnt a widely used term, especially for an airforce of the size of the IAC. Most just simply use inventory.Sorry for insulting your technical knowledge there.
8.The Czech L159 were ordered in a batch of 72. The Czechs only have a requirement for 18. They are a good buy if you want to use them for ground attack but you need to have Maverick and other PGMs to make them worthwhile purchasing.The PC9 can do nearly as good a job at a better price, but it does need decent weaponry, other than rockets, unguided bomb and gun pods.The Sidewinder aquisition is a good idea.Requesting a dozen older models on a freebie of the USA to be placed in storage to be hauled out when a CAP would be necessary is not an unreasonable. Public pressure should not overrule a military aquisition, especially when it is such a basic requirement.Actually how about half a dozen Harpoons or Sea Skuas for the CASAs while youre asking around.
Anyway, peace. Sorry for the arguments and insults
ForkTailedDevilTaj, you actually fly CASA CN235 N100MP’s.AEW EH101 are an alternative to the better radar coverage I saw some of your posters calling out for.And as for huge knowledge the board continually chats about Blackhawks when you clearly can’t afford them.The Mil38s and Kamov60s are nice shiny new helo’s that have the same capabilities and are at a cheaper price (when they get into service). Well just shoot me then for proposing alternatives that you don’t seem to have mentioned b4.
I can’t believe I started something that caused flaming and even more I ignited a raging war between two diffent boards and websites.Its as bad as the Indians and Pakistani here:(
ForkTailedDevilI’ve heard of less security for B2s, never mind Hercules.On this board there are people from all sorts of walks of life, from military to enthusiasts.Between us we can keep track and identify individual serial numbers on many military aircraft and they are worried if someone learns that a US Navy Hercules is sitting at Baldonnel of their site.
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