D8096
There is a photo of the original D8096 in Chaz Bowyers “Bristol F2B Fighter – King of the Two-Seaters” book on page 85, when it served with 208 Squadron in Turkey. The colour scheme looks to be overall silver, with no unit markings or code. I haven’t seen D8096 listed under any other squadron fleet, so I guess as there are no specific unit markings currently on it the code ‘D’ is spurious.
Kemble would definitely get my vote. OK, so it’s nice ‘n close for me, but it has become the best classic jet show in UK, if not Europe. They haven’t called it the ‘Classic Jet Air Show’ in a couple of years, but its still the main theme for the annual air day in June. Its a great venue for an air show, and it usually attracts some interesting aircraft. The 15 Hunter formation flypast a few years ago is still one of my favourite air show performances. The new classic jet flying museum is due to open in the next few years, comprising Delta Jets (Hunters, Gnat, JP), and Air Atlantiques jets (Canberra, Meteor, Vampire, Venom), so the classic jet theme is set to continue.
Oh, and its within range of MB.
Contact details are at http://www.kemble.com
Andy A.
The B-17 was dismantled and brought indoors a couple of years ago, and is now in a restoration hangar at Millington Airport north of Memphis. I believe it had been ‘under cover’ for a decade or two before that. It was protected from the rain, but not from birds, which probably cause a bigger problem than damp. Once restored, the plan was to keep her indoors for good somewhere in the Memphis area.
Apart from its name, there was no link with Memphis during its war years, but it was recovered from a scrapyard by a what became the MBMA in 1946 or around that time, so its had a strong Memphis connection since then. The USAF loaned it to the MBMA, but it was some time after it had been dismantled for restoration that they decided it would be better in Ohio.
Andy
Duxford Bolingbrokes
Getting back to the original thread, there have actually been three Bolingbrokes at Duxford in recent years. The original restoration (G-MKIV) was based on two – RCAF 9893 and RCAF 10038. The rear fuselage section in G-MKIV was from 9893, but it was mostly 10038, and was registered as such. Parts from 9893 were also used in the second restoration (G-BPIV), which was mostly RCAF 10201, but I’m not sure what. The IWM static project is nominally based on the remains of G-MKIV, but the nose of 9893 is being used, so there is probably more of 9893 in it that 10038.
I think I have a note of what is going into the IWM static project, I’ll have to dig it out. It will be marked as 9893 though. Its difficult enough to work out which of the major airframe sections are used in each, and its impossible to determine the smaller bits (although I’m sure the guys are ARCo will have it documented!)
As has been said, the UK flyers retained their Canadian cockpit layouts, so were definitely Bolingbrokes. They were Blenheims in colour scheme only.
Andy
P.S. I think more details are on my website in the Bristol Aircraft Worldwide Survey section at http://www.filton.flyer.co.uk, but its quite a bit out of date at the moment, as I am working on a new Bristol-only version of the website.
Thats what I thought, but thats what was included in a document which was the basis for the list (an interesting out-of-date document on the internet at http://www.crossandcockade.com/files/UK%20ENGINES.doc ) . I thought I’d leave it in (with a question mark) to see if it raised any eyebrows.
A quick check shows that NF370 is a Mk.III, so should have a Pegasus Mk.30 in it. Presumably this was a typo in the original document, unless anyone at IWM can confirm if they have a Perseus?
Another quick check shows that Perseus marks only went up to XII, so we can definately scratch that one from the list. It may have been underpowered, but it was the first sleeve-valved engine in the world to go into production (the first to enter service in the Vildebeest of RAF No.42 Squadron in 1937), so deserves some credit. Another type to use it (apart from the Bristol Bulldog testbed) was the de Havilland Flamingo – not a type I’ve come across before.
Andy
Perseus in the UK
I believe the following UK organisations have a Perseus in some state. This list may be out of date though:
RAF Museum (a Mk IA and a Mk.XII)
RRHT Bristol (Mk.XA)
FAA Museum, Yeovilton (Mk.XII, probably the one in the Skua)
Imperial War Museum, Duxford (Mk.30, in Swordfish NF370?)
Bristol Industrial Museum
Scence Museum
The Irish Aviation Museum which used to be in Dublin had a Mk.XII.
cheers,
Andy Appleton
Thanks Mark. DAP Beaufort forward fuselage serial numbers are generally two ahead of the A9 serial number:
The RAF Museums Beaufort has forward fuselage serial FF559, which means its from A9-557 (the original nose from A9-557, it was replaced in service, and A9-557 lives on at AWM with the nose from A9-461 which should have serial FF463)
The Beaufort in Tennessee has forward fuselage serial FF557 (and ‘557’ scribbled on it), which means its from A9-555.
So if this one has a dataplate of FF152 (or ‘152’ written on it), then it will be from A9-150.
With DAP Beaufort rear fuselages, it goes the other way, the part serial is two behind the A9 serial. e.g. the RAF Museums rear fuselage serial is RF557, which indicates its from A9-559.
cheers,
Andy
The website is working again, so I can insert the full image here….
cheers,
Andy
Yes, the clue is in the name! its a Bristol Bolingbroke, taken at Chino in November 2001. I am assured it is RCAF 10076, but could have bits from 10073 in it. It was in the MARC compound, but I believe it has now gone to Pima – confirmation anyone? I’d be interested to hear what else from MARC went to Pima. I know some stuff is still there e.g. the other Boly. You can see a bigger version of it at http://filton.fotopic.net/p11685388.html – click on the picture to enlarge. This is part of my Blenheim and Bolingbroke survivor photo gallery. Unfortunately the main website is down at the moment.
cheers,
Andy A.
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Very interesting stuff. Can anyone confirm the serials of the Beauforts they mention? A9-501 was substantially damaged when an oxy-torch ignited some residual fuel in the tanks whilst the wings were being cut off. I thought that the forward fuselage under restoration by the Beaufort Restoration Group was from A9-501, not ‘A9-152’ as mentioned in the text. Parts from A9-150 were used, so is the basic structure from ‘-150 or ‘-501?
As to ‘A9-320’ – ain’t heard of this one being about (it was converted to a Mk.9 as A9-742 in 1943, then scrapped after the war) but the wreck of A9-230 was recovered from Nowra, and the forward fuselage at least lived on and was used for spares by the Beaufort Restoration Group.
cheers,
Andy A.
The rig that was used to test the BS.100 in now on display at the Bristol Aero Collection at Kemble – unfortunately without the BS.100. It is based on ex-RAF Harrier GR.1 XV798. The Plenium Chamber Burning (PCB) rig was tested at Patchway in 1964. Wouldn’t it be great to re-unite a BS.100 with the Harrier???
cheers,
Andy A.
Bristol Varsity
The Varsity at Lulsgate was broken up on 9th May 2004. I am not sure if the cockpit was saved, but the engines were. The Trident and Dove were broken up in late July, and I think the noses were saved. Originally the Trident nose was earmarked for the Jet Age Museum, but it had been vandalised beyond recovery for them.
cheers,
Andy
Does anyone know where the repairs are being done? Filton is where this Mustang usually goes for maintenance, along side Robs’s Spitfire. Although its accident was close to his farm, someone mentioned they had seen a Mustang at Filton recently, so it could have been roaded in.
Andy A.
Excellent, that clears it up. Now, does anyone have a fuselage I can practice on? Have own drill, and can swear to required hangar standards.
Andy A.
Last airworthy Freighter
Picking up an earlier message on why the last Freighter was withdrawn from use – it had been flown by Hawkair on a mining contract, and was restored specifically for that job. Then the contract finished, the Freighter was grounded at Terrace, BC, but was still maintained in live condition. The reason for not keeping her airworthy (apart from a lack of suitable work) was a lack of spares. In particular the props on C-GYQS were close to time-expired, and they were the last airworthy Freighter props in the world. To keep it flying would have meant manufacturing new ones, probably not economically viable. There are not two many Bristol Hercules in airworthy aircraft – only the Nord Noratlas in France I believe – so that would have been another headache. This Freighters Hercules engines were off a Varsity I think. I am sure the guys at Hawkair, particularly Paul Hawkins would have loved to keep her flying. As with everything else in this world, it comes down to money.
Regarding C-FDFC, which crashed on take off at Enstone in 1996, I have heard a rumour that the cockpit still survives, and is kept in the garden of someone closely involved with its restoration. As there are no Freighters in Europe, I’d love to see it on display; the Bristol Aero Collection at Kemble would be an ideal location.
Andy Appleton
Filton Airfield Enthusiasts Website
Bristol Aircraft Worldwide Survey
http://www.filton.flyer.co.uk