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  • in reply to: The Neutral Airlines in WWII #792979
    ianwoodward9
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    Swiss air transport services were suspended with effect from 28 August 1939. The opening of the Locarno – Rome service on 18 March 1940 (see previous post) marked their resumption. It was a non-stop service, daily except Sundays, taking about two and a half hours. Swissair had not flown this route prior to WWII. Italy did not enter the war until June 1940 (at least, it was a non-belligerent), so this was technically a service to another neutral country.

    Around the time that the Rome service started, Swissair was contemplating another passenger route, namely Locarno – Barcelona. This was also a new route for the airline and a service to another neutral country. It started on 1 April 1940, on a daily basis. At that time, Vichy France was not established; the partition of France began in June 1940. Even after this date, Swissair’s route would surely have been across the ‘free zone’, so I assume it continued.

    A third route was also under consideration, namely the re-introduction of the pre-war freight and mail service from Altenrhein on Lake Constance to Munich. The German authorities had given their approval.

    in reply to: The Neutral Airlines in WWII #792992
    ianwoodward9
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    A 1940 report on the opening of the Locarno – Rome service by Swissair.

    in reply to: BOAC Liberator II Landing At Prestwick #793009
    ianwoodward9
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    This is given as AL547, which became G-AGKU. It is flying over farmland and, in the background, there is a coastline and, beyond that, across the water, another line of coast. Could this be near Prestwick, with the Firth of Clyde behind AL547 and the Isle of Arran beyond that?

    in reply to: BOAC Liberator II Landing At Prestwick #793148
    ianwoodward9
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    Thanks, Matt.

    The photo of AL594 is different from the others and, as per Matt‘s histories, these others were all converted at Nashville. Does this mean that the photographs were taken at Nashville. Since they were in the SDASM archive, I had assumed that the photos were taken in San Diego. I now wonder whether the aircarft went to San Diego before crossing to Nashville for conversion. Does anybody know?

    in reply to: BOAC Liberator II Landing At Prestwick #793321
    ianwoodward9
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    Oops! Missed one.

    Clicking on the above images should make them the size of this one:

    in reply to: BOAC Liberator II Landing At Prestwick #793344
    ianwoodward9
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    This may be easier way:

    in reply to: BOAC Liberator II Landing At Prestwick #793389
    ianwoodward9
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    When I go in directly through the ‘flickr’ links, I only get an invitation to sign up for YAHOO. which I don’t want to do. However, when I went through the SDASM Archives page and clicked the ‘flickr‘ link, I had not such problem. This is the page I got and I then had to click the highlighted ‘[I]flickr[I]’ link, click on the first image and then go quickly through the images until I got to the Liberators in question – more laborious for sure

    http://sandiegoairandspace.org/collection/image-collection

    This may get you straight through to the first image in the image collection. If so, just right-click until you come upon the first of the Liberators:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/35495225490/in/photostream/

    Also, looking back through this thread, I notice that the ‘photobucket‘ images are no longer available.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #793535
    ianwoodward9
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    I leave that up to you, longshot. I have no strong views either way. I know that this thread has ranged wider than the title would suggest (much of that down to me, I confess) but, for the most part, the tangential excursions have been of the “matters arising” kind.

    in reply to: BOAC Liberator II Landing At Prestwick #793542
    ianwoodward9
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    Couldn’t access ‘flickr’ but found the images through the SDASM site. I assume that, as they are on the San Diego site, the conversions were done at the Consolidated plant there.

    If Consolidated photographed these particular Liberators before conversion, did they photograph them all, I wonder?

    I assume that the RAF serial numbers were applied on arrival at San Diego for conversion. Does anyone know for sure?

    And Matt, if you should see these two posts, it would be great if you could post the histories of these aircraft. I haven’t checked back on your previous postings but the SDASM photos show the following aircraft prior to conversion:

    AL594
    AL628
    AL631
    AL637
    AL639
    AL640
    AL641

    It’s a big ask, I know, but it would be very interesting to see their histories here.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #794702
    ianwoodward9
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    Not wishing to ‘teach granny to suck eggs’ but, if the above image is not as clear as you would wish, you may care to try one or other of these two possible solutions (no guarantees, though):

    (1) right click on the image and ‘copy’ it to a Word document (it should all but fill an A4 sheet set for ‘landscape’ orientation)

    or

    (2) right click on it and ‘save image’ into your own filing system, from which you can view it at your leisure

    Meanwhile, here’s a Junkers company advert from a 1939 ABA timetable, showing one of the latter’s fleet:

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #795085
    ianwoodward9
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    The timetable of the Swedish airline ABA effective from April 1942 took the form of a route map with the route/flight numbers printed along the lines connecting the various cities. The thick lines showed ABA’s own services and the thin lines the connecting services, many of which, not unexpectedly, were via Berlin. One of these was the previously mentioned ‘K22’ to Lisbon.

    The frequency of the ABA/Scandinavian services were shown by a letter against the route/service number: ‘V’ = ‘only on weekdays’ and D = ‘weekdays and Sundays’

    For the routes within Scandinavia, the times of those flights were shown inside the circles containing the city names. There were also times outside the circle preceded by the letter ‘Z’. While there appears to be no explanation, they were between 45 minutes and 60 minutes ahead of flight times, so might just have been the times of bus services out to the airports to catch particular flights.

    Apart from the Lufthansa ‘K22’ service to Lisbon, there was one other service for which the route/flight number was preceded by a letter, namely Route ‘F1’ between Copenhagen and Hamburg. In this case, the ‘F’ stood for a freight and mail service only.

    Unsurprisingly, there was no mention of the ABA service to Britain (Route 1630). After test/proving flights earlier in the year, the service started on 5 May 1942 – outbound on a Tuesday and inbound on a Thursday. From the 10th flight onwards, the aircraft would stop at a military base, Satenas, on the outbound flight; this was more convenient for the SKF (ball bearing) factory and also made actual departure times less obvious to the Germans. The aircraft used was SE-BAG, the ex-Swissair DC-3, which had more powerful engines allowing it to fly higher (less risk from AA fire).

    During the early summer of 1942, the service was so regular that it was almost like peacetime. However, on the night of 21-22 June 1942, returning from Scotland, SE-BAG was attacked over the Skagerrak. Though badly damaged, it was able to make it back to Stockholm. The service did not restart until 14 August 1942, using the re-engined SE-BAF. SE-BAG resumed its duties on 6 October 1942.

    Here’s ABA’s 1942 route map/timetable:

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #795791
    ianwoodward9
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    The frequency of the Lufthansa service to and from Lisbon in 1941 is not immediately obvious to me.

    In Post # 257, the image shows the services available from Lisbon in tabular form. The 9th column in the table, the one that shows the need to stay in a hotel in Madrid on the return journey, is used elsewhere in the timetable to show the days of the week that services were flown. In many cases, however, the column is left blank. I suppose that this could mean a daily service (or even an ‘as and when’ service) but that isn’t clear. Possibly a little more digging around the timetable will yield an answer.

    A bit of searching around the timetable did answer the question about the 7th and 8th columns in that tabular presentation. The former is the price for over-sized luggage and the latter is the price for freight per kilo.

    There is still no explanation apparent for the ‘K’ in the flight number ‘K22’, though.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #797280
    ianwoodward9
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    This will probably be the last extract from the Summer 1939 LARES timetable – not bang on topic but we did discuss FW200 Condors earlier in this thread, as I recall, and the FW company placed the advert below (in case you’re wondering the LARES timetable was in French):

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #797628
    ianwoodward9
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    Frther to the previous post, this is part of the LARES route map as in their Summer 1939 timetable. It is the part that shows services within Romania and, as can be seen, neither Sibiu (Hermannstadt) nor Braşov (Kronstadt) feature.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #799127
    ianwoodward9
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    This is a follow up to Post # 258, the one with the Lufthansa route map for the summer 1941. This post is off-topic but may be of more general interest.

    If you look at the eastern side of the Lufthansa route map, you will see that two Romanian cities, Sibiu and Braşov, also have German-sounding names (Hermannstadt and Kronstadt respectively). Sibiu was the main city of the “Seibenburgen”, the seven fortified towns associated with the Saxons who were invited to settle in this area back in the 12th and 13th centuries. In consequence, the architecture in the old town centre is reminiscent of parts of Germany and there are still German connections in the region to this day. Sibiu once had a predominantly German-speaking population but they are now but a small minority. Nevertheless, the current President of Romania (Klaus Johannis) was a former mayor of Sibiu and comes from this German minority.

    Getting back to the 1941 Lufthansa route map, when you look in the timetable section for details of the air services from Sibiu and Braşov, you are referred to Hermannstadt and Kronstadt. Moreover, LARES, the Romanian airline, had included neither on their own route network immediately prior to WWII. So, either the German powers-that-be sought their inclusion or LARES saw the way the wind was blowing and began to fly there.

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