Thank you, ericmunk, for your explanation. Do you happen to know the date (roughly, at least) when D-ARPF changed from natural finish to camouflage?
I have a couple of other questions.
You mentioned that KLM staff had gone on strike between 8 and 22 October 1940, so presumably made no flights to Lisbon in this period. In Post # 78, I gave a figure of 40 for the number of flights made to and from Lisbon in October 1940 and also gave information about the loads. This came from a history of Whitchurch, as I recall. If KLM were on strike for two weeks, does this mean that more than the normal number of flights were carried out on non-strike days? Or did the BOAC crews fly the KLM aircraft when the KLM crews were on strike?
The other question is whether you have any information of the precise dates that the leasing of individual aircraft started? And the dates when the lease agreement for each aircraft ended ?
This is another photograph in which D-ARPF is in the background. D-ARPF was ‘acquired’ by Lufthansa in the middle of 1940 and I have a question about this photograph of her.
The photo is of OY-DEM [DDL’s Fw-200 named “Jutlandia”] but it is not dated. However,even from the part of it shown below, ‘Jutlandia’ is wearing the neutrality colours that it carried from early 1940 until August 1945, so it is very much a WWII photo – which leads to my question.
Maybe it is a trick of the light but D-ARPF appears not to be wearing the dark paint scheme we’ve seen in other photographs but a peacetime-like livery. Can anyone offer an explanation?
Here’s another image of D-ARPF, the ex-KLM DC-3 [note starboard passenger door, again], not at Lisbon on this occasion:
I’m part way through reading the Christie book “Ocean Bridge”. I checked the index and there is but one entry for “Heathfield Aerodrome” and that is with regard to the crash of AM261. Similarly, there are just two entries for “Ayr” and one of those is to the “losses” Appendix (and thus AM261 again) – the other is more general in nature. In contrast, “Prestwick, Scotland” gets over 30 entries in the index and some of those cover several pages.
Christie reports that, on the second delivery flight, one Hudson deliberately flew to Prestwick, not Northern Ireland (something to do with a set of golf clubs) and that was used to promote Prestwick as the eastern terminal of the ferry service.
The disparity between the index entries for “Heathfield Aerodrome” and “Prestwick” and my inference from the ‘golf clubs’ story prompt questions about the use of the two airfields on the ferrying operations:
>>> was there a period when the ferry operated to and from Ayr/Heathfield and not Prestwick?
>>> if using either Ayr/Heathfield or Prestwick was optional, what was the basis for selecting which to use?
>>> how many ferry flights were made into and out of Prestwick in the ‘ferry period’?
>>> how many into and out of Ayr/Heathfield in that same period?
>>> did the emphasis slowly shift from Ayr/Heathfield to Prestwick?
>>> or was there a date after which all ferry flights used Prestwick and no longer used Ayr/Heathfield at all?
This is a letter in the opposite direction. It was posted in Bern on 11 September 1941, the postmark is a “Transit” one; from there it went to Chiasso (pencilled towards the top left hand corner), which is in the south of Switzerland, on the border with Italy. It has an international railway station. The letter then travelled from Chiasso to Rome by train and from Rome to Buenos Aires by LATI, apparently in I-BOLI though I can see no evidence for that (perhaps it’s on the reverse of the cover).
The interesting thing is that one of Hart Preston’s photo shows I-BOLI landing at Natal and that is dated by some as 23 September 1941. Could it have been carrying this very letter, I wonder? Is that the evidence for saying it was carried by I-BOLI?
Anyway, as you can see, there was even a printed air mail sticker saying ‘LATI’:
It looks like a letter took about a week to reach Europe using the LATI service. The cover below is from a Swiss site. It was posted in Santos, the port for Sao Paulo in Brazil, on 13 March 1940. The handstamp shows it travelled by “Condor” (to Rio) and then by “LATI” to Rome, where it arrived on 19 March 1940. Apparently, it then went by Swissair from Rome to Locarno and presumably from there to Zurich by surface mail.
I would be grateful, steve-p, if you could check the date of the excellent map you linked. I ask because there are several hangars and buildings on the north side of the airfield and I’m not sure that they had been built by 1939 (I’ll come on to this more fully in a moment). Also, the area to the north of the airfield and the area between Hensgrove and Whitchurch both seem more built up than I would have expected in 1939.
Below is a plan of the airfield as in “Air Pilot” in 1937, with North at the top. On the south side of the airfield, the hangar on the left is a showroom; to its right is the public hangar; next along, as marked, are the “Club House” and the Traffic Office” (the latter being the passenger terminal building); and, finally, just north of the “Traffic Office” is what was called the Public Hangar. Just south (more or less) of the “Club House”, in the forecourt of the building complex, is another black rectangle: this was a squash court!
In his history of Whitchurch, Ken Wakefield does not mention the erection of buildings on the north side of the airfield until the sub-section on ‘1943’ and, only then, at the end and just before the sub-section on ‘1944’. His description of events does not always follow chronology strictly, so I don’t know how significant the positioning of the following words is but here is what he wrote:
“On the North Side, numerous buildings and huts were erected for use as offices and workshops by BOAC, KLM and the ATA. A Type T12 hangar was shared by BOAC and KLM and an adjacent Bellman hangar was used by the ATA. Eventually there were five hangars in this side of the airport with one of them – the most westerly – used as a depot by the Bristol Aeroplane Company“.
Here’s the 1937 plan:
This is not strictly about flights to Lisbon but, since we slipped on to Pan Am Clippers, I am posting another image. As you can see, this was at Natal in Brazil.
The photograph was taken for LIFE magazine by Hart Preston who, as I understand it, was there to record the development of the (land) airport at Natal. His photographs cover a wider range of subjects and this Clipper is one of them. Natal was a stop on South Atlantic aircraft delivery route in WWII and his photographs include shots of Pan Am DC-3s and, I think, some rather more anonymous DC-2s. Here’s the Clipper (N18612, it looks like):
Thank you, Alan (thorgil). Not just interesting but instructive. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Chastening perhaps but very welcome.
I knew there’d be an accident report around somewhere. Is the ‘plan’ available on-line (the plan to which that account refers)? It would be great to see it. I think I can work out what happened but I feel a little cautious now, so a contemporary sketch map would be very handy.
On the personal side, I might mention that my eldest was born in Ayr at Thornyflats, a maternity hospital in my time there but the buildings had originally been the medical facilities (hospital?) for RAF Ayr.
With the Heathfield and Prestwick airfields being so close, I assume that there would have been some form of joint control of movements and airspace.
I hope these two images will be of interest to others. I have two photographs taken by a Montreal-based photographer showing the triple-fin and rear fuselage of BOAC Constellation G-AHEK. I assume that they were taken at Dorval. The date stamped on the reverse side is 10 May 1946. What I show here are the aircraft in the background of the two photographs.
One shows, amongst others, a couple of twin-fin Liberators and the other a couple of single -in Liberators – all four in bare metal finish. Further back in the latter are three twin-fin Liberators, two bare metal and one, by what little you can see, still in its camouflage (dark anyway).
You will have to click on the images to enlarge them – double-clicking makes them larger again but no clearer really.
Thanks for your reply, ericmunk. “An incipient book” sounds like a great project.
I should say that my involvement here is a combination of (a) an aviation interest that has lain dormant for more than 50 years, (b) several boxes of books and magazines from that period -and earlier – and, since (a) lay inactive and (b) unopened for so very long, (c) a rather steep learning curve in very recent times. My experience of flying is not quite as old as the period about which we’re talking (my first three flights were in a Vickers Viking, a Bristol Wayfarer and a modified Tiger Moth) but I find the subject interesting and this thread (and others here) most stimulating.
I was not familiar with the ‘politics’, clashes and in-fighting that you describe but I am not surprised. I have read about similar tensions in connection with the Stockholm Run. At the time we’re talking about, KLM was concerned about its survival as a company and the British authorities about the survival of the country – different perspectives, different priorities. As in most situations in life, different priorities generate personal tensions. Differences that, to a dispassionate outsider, may seem best resolved by rational discussion between cool heads, escalate dramatically (“spiral out of control” is a common phrase). There is a mathematical proposition that presents the process graphically but, not being a mathematician, I cannot recall what it is called.
You have done us proud, ericmunk. Thank you very much for so much additional information.
I had kept my original notes to 1940 and only strayed into later years to follow up the contribution made by Jur. I hope hadn’t got any of the years mixed up.
I had not gone into KLM’s Far East connections at all, largely because I know so little about that subject. Perhaps you could start another thread, ericmunk, if you have the time and the inclination. An outline chronology, even in note form, would be a very good starting point.
Getting back to the KLM aircraft that came to Britain, would it be reasonable to assume that both the camouflaging and the application of British markings did not take place until each aircraft was officially given its British registration? If so, some of that painting work would have taken place in August 1940 as well as July 1940.
Regarding your 6 October 1940 note: I believe it was indeed Capt. Tepas who was piloting G-AGBG/PH-ALR when it crashed at Heston on 21 September.
Re: the issues between crew members in October and November 1940, this was new to me. As I understand it, the radio aids at Whitchurch were not the best. At the time, I think they were limited to a D/F station (a homing beacon, in effect). More sophisticated equipment came later but I don’t know when. At least the BOAC and KLM crews could communicate with Whitchurch by radio, unlike most aircraft using that airfield (they relied on the use of lamp signals).
Regarding the 24 Nov 1940 air raid: I believe other aircraft were damaged that day, too, including several of BOAC’s Ensigns and the former DDL Condor, G-AGAY. I have not seen anything about damage to DH.91 Flamingos but, maybe, someone will be able to enlighten us on this aspect.
As indicated in your link, Jur, “Ibis” (G-AGBB/PH-ALI) was something of an ‘unlucky’ aircraft.
On 15 November 1942 (O/B, I believe), it was attacked by a lone German aircraft, escaping into cloud with only minor damage. Then, on 19 April 1943, it was attacked a second time, some 3.5 hours from Whitchurch O/B to Lisbon, this time by a number of Bf-110s. Piloted by Capt. Parmentier, “Ibis” headed for the deck and got away with punctured fuel tank, thankfully empty. Nobody was injured. The passengers included the Assistant Air Attache in Portugal and four Irish novice priests, who perhaps had flown from Ireland on BOAC’s DH.91 service to Whitchurch.
On 1 June 1943, it was a case of third time unlucky. “Ibis” left Portela at 0730 hours GMT and, three hours later, called Whitchurch to say it was under attack. It had encountered eight JU 88s and the outcome was never really in doubt. I have heard the stories about that flight and have never studied it but there are elements that cause me doubt. It would seem odd that the Ju 88s would patrol in a bunch of eight to ‘catch’ this plane; I would have expected them to spread out more in order to cover a wider area. Were these eight just part of a much larger force out on the hunt for Leslie Howard and the “secret pact” document? Likewise, if the ‘secret pact’ document was the principal target, what purpose would the shooting down of “Ibis” have served? It would have delayed matters, no doubt, but did it prevent the pact from going ahead?
Anyway, after this tragedy, night flights were introduced and, since the KLM aircraft lacked both flame-damping exhaust covers and an astro-dome, they were unsuitable and therefore withdrawn for a while. In the three years from July/August 1940 to 26 July 1943, KLM made 1622 Lisbon flights, with a 94% regularity, and carried almost 10,000 passengers.
BOAC then increased its frequency on the Lisbon Run to four per week, with the returning I/B flights timed to arrive around dawn, because Whitchurch lacked approach lights and had no proper flarepath. I presume that the Dutch crews were employed on these BOAC flights – again, can anyone confirm this?
From 4 August 1943, BOAC resumed a twice-weekly Whitchurch-Gibraltar service. Also in the summer of 1943, the Lisbon flights were extended to Fez in Algeria, though, in September, this was changed to Rabat in Morocco. On 24 October 43, a weekly Whitchurch-Madrid-Lisbon service was started; in November, a service to Algiers via Gibraltar O/B and Rabat-Gibraltrar I/B, too. For these flights, the aircraft would usually stop elsewhere (Chivenor, St Mawgan and Portreath) to top up their fuel tanks before departing these shores. Commonly, these services were flown by BOAC crews in RAF uniforms and BOAC aircraft now bearing military roundels and service numbers. For a period, departures were from Lyneham and arrivals back at Whitchurch, though, from 31 December, Whitchurch again became the airport for both O/B and I/B flights.
One report says that KLM did not resume the Whitchurch-Lisbon-Gibraltar service until 29 March 1944, which seems a long break. Perhaps someone else can help!
On 18 April 1944, KLM made its 1000th return flight to Lisbon for BOAC , using “Buizard” (G-AGBD/PH-ARB)
I’ve done a bit more digging and the following concerns KLM’s ‘escapees’ but limited to1940.
The brief background is that, on 3 September 1939, Britain and France had declared war on Germany following the latter’s invasion of Poland but Holland and Belgium were neutral. In Britain, aircraft were dispersed from London and one of the dispersal bases was Whitchurch, just south of Bristol.
These dates are in 1940 and I’ve included a few questions along the way
10 May: German offensive against France started, including the invasion of neutral countries Holland and Belgium
——-: six KLM aircraft (5 DC-3s and 1 DC-2) arrived at Shoreham from Amsterdam, Lisbon and Naples (precise dates?)
—— : at first they went to Whitchurch but were then relocated to Heston (date?)
—— : charter arrangements by KLM to BOAC agreed (date?)
6 Jun : the Whitchurch-Lisbon service inaugurated by DH.91 G-AFDL “Fingal” (an intermediate stop made in France)
—– : when the stop in France was no longer possible, the greater range of the DC-3 was crucial
24 Jul : G-AGBB registered (C of A issued on 25 July)
25 Jul : G-AGBD registered (C of A issued on 29 July)
26 Jul : a trial service was operated by KLM (presumably by G-AGBB, as the only KLM DC-3 with a C of A)
1 Aug: DC-3s G-AGBC, G-AGBE and G-AGBI registered (C of A: 5 Aug, 25 Sep and 17 Aug respectively)
DC-2 G-AGBH registered the same day (when was its C of A issued?)
—– : (was this when camouflage was first applied ?)
—– : the KLM aircraft flew to 10 degrees West, then turned south for Lisbon across the Bay of Biscay
10 Aug: KLM assigned responsibility for Lisbon route (4 flights per week by DC-3; 1 flight per week by DC-2) from Heston
20 Sep: KLM fleet, crew and ground staff reassigned to Whitchurch (when did they actually relocate?)
21 Sep: G-AGBC (PH-ALR) crashed, Heston (landing in fog; hit anti-invasion pole; no passengers aboard; no crew injured)
October: 40 return flights made, carrying:
O/B: 154 passengers; 6408 kgs of mail; 3452 kgs of freight
I/B: 118 passengers; 5302 kgs of mail; 4134 kgs of freight
24 Nov: G-AGBI (PH-ARW) destroyed by an incendiary bomb at Whitchurch during a German daylight air raid on Bristol
That’s the extent of my notes. Please tell me if this information is already established and well-known.
Also please tell me of any mistakes I’ve made or misleading information I’ve included (my shoulders are broad in this regard).
And, of course, please post any additional information that could supplement the above.
There has been discussion earlier of the location of the airports around Lisbon. Here I turn to the other end of the route – Whitchurch. If you look at a map today, Whitchurch seems to be the southern part of the Bristol city conurbation. What was the airport at Whitchurch is almost entirely built over, with little evidence of a previous existence.
Although the map below is from a road map published in 1958, it is a reprint of the 1957 edition which was probably compiled in 1956. It is therefore about 10 years after the end of WWII and Whitchurch is still Bristol’s airport. It is marked prominently on this map by the red circle enclosing a red cross. Bristol’s current airport is not marked but was known as Lulsgate in my youth and you will find Lulsgate Bottom in the bottom left-hand corner of the map below.
I have added the scale at the bottom of the map. Very approximately, 3 miles is about 5 Kms.