Nice pics Peter.

Was just thinking about her the other day and plan to speak to CC on this one. Believe it is off to a German client who has a collection. If finished authentically it will be a red number of 14./JG77 (24.01.42) which became 5./JG5 (25.01.42) and yellow wing tips and yellow engine cowl and hopefully the powlar bear emblem. She probably came from II/JG77. Sister ship 1407 is in Berlin DTM though it carries a mixture of black markings/shield of 5./JG77 and later red markings of 5./JG5. Steve, one possiility is the wings will be rebuilt at Meier Motors as they have the jigs and are doing wings for Bf109E-1 (W.Nr unknown) 6-88 Spanish Legion. Might be other facilities but this one comes to mind.

Think she was built as an E-3.

http://www.luftwaffe.no/5JG5.html

regards

Mark

Do17

Lets hope the recovery is successful. I don’t want to remember the Fw200 Condor recovery from the sea off Norway a few years ago, though the condition pf parts was quite good. (Being restored for the DTM Berlin).

I hope it is the aircraft in question though this is not guaranteed. I remember the Fw190D recovered from Lake Schwerin in 1989/90. The research was detailed, eye witness found and the very small area of the lake surveyed. ROV sent down and Fw190D discovered in four pieces engine and fuselage, tail and both wings. (Also a MiG15/17 which is still there 🙂 ). All recovered successfully. Only later was it discovered it was an Fw190D shot down two weeks earlier than the one they were expecting, which hit the water at low level when it was like a millpond. The other is still there along with other Fw190D’s, Seibel 204, Bucker’s I recall and goodness knows what else.

Hopefully the ID can be confirmed when it is recovered though even this might be difficult.

Good luck to all though.

Mark

Lake Lesina

More to the point, not very deep!

Max. length 22 km
Max. width 3.5 km
Surface area 51.4 km²
Average depth 0.7 m
Max. depth 1.7 m
Residence time 100 days
(summer 306 days,
winter 31 days)
Surface elevation 0 m (0 ft)

Now, with the German lakes I know of Bf109’s, Fw190D, Bu181, Seibel 204 crashed in 1945 and even a MiG 15/17 post war. Unfortunately all owned by the German Government if you wanted to recover them.

regards

MS

Copping

Obviously not read Sgt Sheppard’s account about the transfer flight.

Look forward to hearing his story.

MS

P3351

I love P3351 and know her intimately but I hope that the new owner undertakes a few mods, changing the late Merlin to a Merlin III, change the cowlings accordingly and changing the prop/spinner to a Rotal example which would be the hard part!

Mark

Spitfire

…..before adding Merlin engines. Thought they only had one :confused:

People should not write about stuff they don’t know or don’t research!

MS

burial

Very moving – RIP