Robert Taylor
Still get all the flyers for him (and his son) for new prints etc.
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Il-2
Dan
You need to speak to Boris or Oleg.
Mark
fishing
Going that fast he is not going to get much lift as it is facing in the wrong direction and no tail feathers either.
Rubbish weather until next week so we’ll have to wait and see for the next installment.
MS
Paul has been fishing and is of course correct and of course found pilots family ๐
fishing
General Motors
Big inland sea
largest land-dwelling species of the family Mustelidae
Hurricane
Record card has it down as a Hurricane IA.
Was trying to work out where the pic was taken on google maps etc but it seems the site has been extensively alterated post war.
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/image48969.html
MS
P40
previous post should say out of ‘fuel’. Not fire.
MS
P40
Chris
At the point of impact, the sump, was removed along with oil and fuel feeds and no doubt with metal/stone impact and sparking caused a flash fire within the engine area (flash fire = high temperature/short duration fire). As the P40 is thought to have been very low or about out of fire (we assume the engine was still turning due to the damage of the propeller). might have been windmilling – it was not feathered which I assume would be possible).
I was under the impression the IFF was a small electrical charge – it would not have caused the sort of damage visible in the photos.
regards
MS
P40
You have to remember that nothing could be taken from the cockpit as it was only open 8″ or so and the perspex was complete originally. No-one has managed to open the cockpit in the months between discovery and recovery though that does not necessarily mean it could not be opened in the past.
Whether bits of harness etc were pulled out after the perspex was broken, I don’t know.
Shows how important undisturbed ‘crime scene’ photos are being everything gets disturbed!
Said nothing about the pistol being fired. It was just found! ?
The fuselage damage is still thought to be Flak damage from the recon on the morning of the 28th June 1942.
regards
MS
P40
Also noticed the damage.
See the harness was fitted to the tubular frame and not actually the seat which would make sense.
All the pictures were from JP initial set he posted way back when.
I had also assumed the parachute was used by Dennis copping for shade and warmth at night.
regards
MS
P40
http://www.cairdpublications.com/scrap/survgearbit/survgearbit.htm
First picture shows what I think is the D ring of the seat parachute (see above). I would have thought all of it (and the parachute) would be under the wing. This was where the parachute was located. The harness seemed to be in front of the starboard wing and the D ring behind the port wing.
Parachute, well chewed but is this all of it?? Has it been cut? Has the cords been taken/used?
The remains of the harness in the cockpit. Is that a strap end or has it been cut. Looks very straight and unfrayed to me but nothing coming out of the seat frame where U assumed it would have been fixed to?
regards
MAS
P40
I am sure there is a picture showing the D ring of the parachute in the sand behind the port wing. I will have to find it.
Additionally, I have heard from a couple of sources that the verey pistol was found in the cockpit during the recovery. Now if that was the case, I tend to believe he was seriously injured in the crash landing as it was extremely hard with a flash fire around the engine – hot oil/fuel after removing the sump.
I am not sure if he would have been in a condition to walk far and could have suffered injuries as mentioned.
The one thing I am sure you would take on walking out or staying with the would be the verey pistol. (It was found in the bottom of the cockpit).
I had always hoped Dennis Copping would be found under the port wing but this was not the case.
I cannot believe he would be buried by bedouins where the bones were found as this was some miles away. It would be local to the aircraft. Whether there was a cairn of rocks I don’t know. Needs another look at the photos.
I cannot think of a reason why the harness would be removed by the pilot. What could he rig up with it?
regards
MS
ough
Hi Andy,
unusual name and there is a Gareth Ough in Cheltenham who must have some connection and she died only 8 years ago.
http://www.192.com/atoz/people/ough/gareth/
Sorry, been out the loop recently with other stuff.
Mark
Steve
Sorry to hear that Steve. Hope the op went well and get well soon.
Will have to catch up soon.
Mark
P40
Would like to see a Russian scheme as well but I will always be biased.
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Exactly as John T said. Great tribute and sorry for your loss.
Mark