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  • in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1217371
    lindoug
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    Three more 81st photos; all F-101Cs

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1217608
    lindoug
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    A very good picture. Thanks for posting.

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1218382
    lindoug
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    Robin Olds and I communicated quite a lot about his AF career, including, of course the Voodoo. He mentioned special weapons delivery practice:
    “All methods were challenging and enjoyable to practice. However, I would have to say the laydown was probably the most accurate and ‘over the shoulder’ the most fun, but what did it matter? Considering the strength of the object we were tasked with delivering, I don’t suppose a few hundred feet this way or that would have made a hell of a difference!”

    In an effort to stop pilots being totally blinded by the glare of the atomic bursts they flew through on their way to the target, they were issued with an eye patch. Thus the wearer would retain the use of his sight in at least one eye, which he would uncover as he closed on his target!

    Photo is of an A model.

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1218587
    lindoug
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    Mea culpa also. The centreline container could dispense 6 X 25lb practice bombs. The concrete shape was used for simulated special weapons delivery; but this is patently not what is in the photo I posted earlier. The 38th TRS, 66th TRW also had a nuclear delivery role with their RF-101Cs when they were based at Ramstein. Below another quote from Don karges who flew with the unit at the time. It gives an interesting insight into practicing with the concrete:
    “Occasionally we dropped a 2000 pound concrete shape which had a drogue chute similar to the real weapon. This was much more realistic, but caused a few laughs and scary moments. If we were doing a LADD delivery, the shape would release while we were in a steep climb, the chute would deploy immediately and fall behind and below the aircraft. Our escape manoeuvre to avoid the blast was to roll inverted, pull 4gs toward the ground and escape straight at high speed/low level. BUT, once in a while the chute would not deploy and when we rolled inverted to pull toward the ground the 2000 pound concrete shape was right opposite the canopy as if it were flying formation! Obviously the shape goes into a ballistic curve and lands who knows where.”

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1218717
    lindoug
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    F-101As served with the 81st TFW at Bentwaters alongside the F-101Cs Registrations were from 54-1438 to 54-1485. The photos posted by Mark12 were A models.

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1219731
    lindoug
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    Note centreline store. Is this a concrete shape used for special weapons delivery practice?

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1221221
    lindoug
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    Visit this site for some good photos and info:
    78th-bushmasters.org.uk
    If you google 81st TFW or any of the squadrons 78th, 91st or 92nd TRS you should pick up on some good material

    in reply to: High – Low – High #1222644
    lindoug
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    It did indeed signify a mission profile in both recce Fighter bomber sorties. Piece below may be of some help, at least in recce terms:

    “The RF-101C pilots of the 66th TRW developed their own particular brand of low level, high speed photographic reconnaissance. The wing received the accolade of the 7th Army for it’s commitment to Exercise Fair Play from February 2nd to 7th, 1959; when sixteen day reconnaissance missions were flown every day under very adverse weather conditions. Don Karges flew with the 66th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing:

    “All training in Europe was based on high speed, low level tactics. The reasons were simple – we had only a day, VMC capability with no ECM or radar warning devices. We did not believe we could survive a heavy SAM environment (above 1000’) and the prevailing weather in Europe would force us to photograph targets at low altitude. A typical mission was 2 hours and 10 minutes and consisted of a high-low- high profile. We would climb to 30,000’ and cruise in a straight line for about 40 minutes, let down below the clouds and fly our planned low level mission at 420kts, 500’ for about30-40 minutes – usually with 2-3 pinpoint targets like com sites, bridges etc. and one route reconnaissance of a highway or railroad.”

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1222851
    lindoug
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    We English can appreciate anything with wings :D- I even have a soft spot for the Mirage III ……! and I dislike anything French !
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    Even the cheese and wine!
    Not to mention their incredibly cheap and very good airshows. Try Reims this year. It’s only 10€ entrance.
    The French appreciate who funds the Armed Forces.
    Back to the F-101: a quote from Robin Olds re. the French:
    “Our course to Africa always took us down across Central France, coasting out between Marseilles and Nice, over the Mediterranean, past Malta and Pantelleria and on to Tripoli. The French were always the French! Invariably, we would be given a lower altitude as we entered their airspace, and invariably we acknowledged, and then reported arriving the assigned lower height, when in fact we continued to cruise climb all the way in order to complete our journey. The Mirage 111s often intercepted us and they would regularly do arrogant barrel rolls around us as we plodded along, staying just ahead of stall speed, chasing the Mach. We rather enjoyed their antics, and always gave them the finger in the form of our air refuelling probe, which came up rudely out of the nose of the F-101”
    Have attached a couple of photos. The IFR one shows two F-101s and two RF-101s of the 66th TRW.

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1222865
    lindoug
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    I spent my early childhood in Orford on the Suffolk coast and close to Bentwaters and Woodbridge. I remember open days, the F-84s of the 81st, the F-100s of the 79th TFS and of course the F-101s of the 81st. We used to picnic at Iken which was on the approach to Bentwaters….now those were the afternoons. I remember seeing the Skyblazers at Bentwaters and the stunning low level flying.
    Incidently, why did it never rain then?
    All this is probably why I have more interest in the USAF today.
    Mind you we did move to Farnborough when I was 13!

    in reply to: F-101A/C Voodoo #1223761
    lindoug
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    How refreshing to see your post about a USAF cold war jet….a rarity on these pages! I have a considerable interest in the Voodoo, mainly in the recce version about which I have written a good deal. I’ll have a look through all my material and see if I come up with anything. You’re asking a difficult question mainly because the fighter bomber version was designed specifically as a special weapons delivery system. However I do know that towards the end of its time with the 81st there was a re-emphasis on conventional gunnery and bombing. It could carry six practice bombs on its centre pylon when engaged in conventional bombing on the Holbeach, Jurby and Suippes ranges. I’ll get back to you. Check your private messages.

    in reply to: New Classroom? #1224068
    lindoug
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    I’ll second that. I know that if the opportunity had come to me when I was a headteacher then I would have jumped at it. There is obviously a lot of enthusiasm and that’s a good starting point; and, having had a normal mobile classroom ‘torched by some yobs’ I think that’s an occupational hazard regardless.

    in reply to: Saudi/Kuwait Lightnings #1232248
    lindoug
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    Have a look on the Lightning photo thread. I posted one there just the other day taken at Farnborough 1966.

    in reply to: Mig reconnaissance variants #1233864
    lindoug
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    Does anyone have a copy of any book dealing with the Mig 15, 17, 19, 21? I need some advice as to whether a particular publication deals comprehensively with the R (Reconnaissance) variant. I’m happy to buy of course, but don’t want to order blind and find that there’s no info on the recce version.
    Thanks

    in reply to: Gloster Meteor photos #1161366
    lindoug
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    Meteorites

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