ZOOMMobilizing the troop depends much upon behaviour of friendly countries as how they will allow foriegn troop on their soil. At the same time, dimensions of troop, logistics and sorties depends upon type of operation being carried out. Unless we aren’t involve in full blown conflict then troops must be in very low number especially of Special Ops kind to carry out the evacuation, suppression of behind enemy line at a lighting speed.
ZOOMI think major reason for the wide glass cockpit must have something to do with reducing the weight of the LCH as makers must have covering more space with cockpit layout rather then covering the same with armour.
ZOOMI need to see a poject that is on time and a real happy and satisfied customer. There are probably many reasons that stopped the deal with the French avionics. We are talking about 50-100 birds. It is not about 5-10 engines but the whole deal. Do not forget that besides these systems the Pakistani have tp produce the entire jet in Pakistan. I think it will ahve some more troubles before we see finally a block 2.
Since according to you, Pakistan is producing JF-17 entirely, May I have some details about ancillary industry that is supposed to produce sub assemblies for JF-17?
ZOOMI think the US factor is not war related. If war starts you are on your own. And, knowing that both are nuclear armed, I doubt that it will last months. The US uses its weapons (deliveries) as a leverage to control political developments. I think that is the real issue. You see, USA asked at this moment India not to get energie from Iran. And In the past India voted against Iran to get nuclear deal. What will happen if India relies on 125 US MRCA’s? That is a lot of spare parts. I think that, unfortunately, the BJP has the right conclusion. You have all seen what happened with Venezuelan F16’s, Indonesian f16’s, Pakistani f16’s] and there are surely more examples. Surely you get nice tools but the price you pay is not only higher, the poitical consequences are negative. Before you know the US will start a colour revolution in your garden.
India voted against Iran for its Iran’s associated Nucler connection with Pakistan’s Scientist Dr. A Q Khan for providing Know how of Nuclear technology. Just because we have relationship with Iran, it doesn’t translate into strings of sanctions if India purchase certain things with US. Indo-US trade ties are growing rapidly and they are one of the largest trading partner, US isn’t jittery enough to risk its improving relationship with India by putting strings on its MRCA sale. India know it very well equally about US law and order associated with MRCA and hence it doesn’t fear sanctions similar to what has been imposed on Pakistani F-16 alongwith others.
ZOOMWonder what new kit they have in pipeline for PAF
Pak to get security assistance package from US
ISLAMABAD: Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has expressed the confidence that the government would be able to obtain a multi year security assistance package from the United States.
Speaking in Senate on the recent concluded strategic dialogue between Pakistan and the United States, the foreign minister said the Pakistan side was able to convince the US administration about the country’s genuine security needs.
He said the United States has agreed on fast track delivery of the equipment needed by Pakistan.
The minister said it has been agreed that the United States would release substantial amount under Coalition Support Fund by the end of this month and all the backlog for the last year would be cleared by June, 2010.
He said during the dialogue Pakistan side not only tried to convey what kind of challenges the country is confronting because of its wholehearted involvement in the war on terror but also the urgent need for assistance.
Qureshi said Pakistan told the American side not to look at its relations with Islamabad in the prism of Afghanistan. — DawnNews
It is very difficult to figure out as why does Pakistan needs repeated Security Package when it can fulfill the same thing from its all weather ally China. It seems to me that Pakistan’s defence needs is so bigger that not even heavy duty Chinese defence industry can fulfill all those needs at a favourable credit.
ZOOMMany Many congratulations to HAL Engineers for the Maiden flight of LCH.
As far as Cockpit is concerned, it seems to be on the lines of twin seater fighter jet’s canpoy to give good all round view. At the same time, they should have nose camera just under the starboard instead of on a upper side. It would be highly sensible to get ride of its landing gear which is simply asking for a larger space. Other then that design seems to be optimized for smaller rcs.
ZOOMTeer
SD-10 were ordered just a few years before JF-17 coming on line, PAF dont expect FC-20 till 2014.
Can you work out what plane they intend it for? Or do you still want to move around inconvinanet facts that do not fit into your perception of reality?
Had to stop reading your last epic post on tanks, alot fo white noise and very little facts, just starting to wash right over me now.
Not able to figure out, an inducted JF-17 is still BVRless?
ZOOMTo promote Private sector participation, Govt need to undertake some financial regulatory changes to make it possible for Private Inc to access greater financial needs. Since Private sector participants will going to see Defence sector on the scale of Infrastructure project as there is need for both technological excellence as well as labour productivity. Right now, many of our Mega Project in Infrastructure sector are plugged with lack of finance and hence many Private participants regardless of their size and market share are wary of forying into the same.
So in my opinion if we want to see Private sector to play an important role in defence sector, there should be a greater need for reforms in various arena’s like Taxation and finance access. There should be a single door clerance for any defence project, so Private Inc won’t get suffer unnecessarily to run around getting various approvals. Govt should allow Private sector to source their financial needs from abroad in the form of ECB and look to improve secondary Corporate Bond market which will lower down the cost of investment for Private sector to look towards riskier defence project.
ZOOMAs far as my analysis goes, in every other procurement of last few years, US has done an excellent job of complying with many of the conditions put up by Indian Offset policy, at the same time US is truly taking some affirmative measures in speeding up the project. One of the living example of the same is nothing but the Boeing P-8I purchase for IN and subsequent contracting of production of sub assemblies of the same to Indian manufacturers. So I think, purchase of SH and Falcons would not be a bad idea though.
ZOOMSingapore brings high-tech mechanised forces to India for wargames
Does key objective of any exercise with any Asean nation necessarily be oriented towards countering China? There are many more issues we need to tackle and if we are conducting such exercises with the sole purpose of countering China, then I don’t think it will bring any valuable dividends to us. Since many of this nations themselves are the clear supporters of China, recent case being Singapores’s latest support to China on Arunachal issue. We need to adpot forward looking policy which will enable us to gain our footprint to safegaurd our interest in both trade and commerce around this regions.
ZOOMLet me get this right, you are implying any strike on the China-Pak highway would not turn into a full scale war?
Go and re-read your own post to which I quoted in previous page. I had only clarified your point of IAF’s inability to avoid Manpads in future. If you cannot understand such a simple thing then I cannot make such obvious anymore clear.
ZOOMZoom, if you qoute me at least do me the honour of qouting me correctly?
I said “May” be a blow for the IAF. I happen to agree completely with you, there are just to many variables to ensure an attempted IAF strike on Karakouram would succeed.
However we have people like Quadbike on the forum who claim (and here I am qouting him directly)
“Actually taking out a high profile target will be rather easy for the IAF”
Can you see the difference between our reality and his internet rants?
Just because some member has made an immaturish remark as you are saying, it doesn’t mean to let yourself carried away to get wronged in your own eyes only. You may have presented a Geographical pictures as well as assets deployed by Pakistan to tackle such crisis rather then getting angered with others comments.
ZOOMIrony? So IAF will go from low level to high level. Do you realise that makes them more vulnerable. That is exactly what MANPADs aims to do. If the IAF cannot fly through mountains, thats lights them up for radar and AWACs. It actually plays into the hands of PAF….
Irony indeed…
Yes it is Irony indeed, since I am not worked up like you to simply turn the context that we are talking about into full scale war that you are trying do. I only made my point clear about Kargil context only and for full scale war I have done exclusively in other post. And please don’t make such childish comments that you have done in ending part of your above post.
ZOOMWe have heard this and its tiring. There are just so many variables that it is simply not right to assume MKIs will blow away Block 52s. You know that just as much as I do.In addition, PAF will be operating over its own air space.
The point is, any strike will not go unopposed. Either by Pakistan Army Air Defence or PAF.
Such an attempt may prove to be massive blow to the IAF rather then the other way round.
First you say there are too many variables to be considered for while having a comments about airwar and then only you are saying it would be a massive blow to IAF rather then other way round. For your kind information, if airwar is getting fought either on Pak or Indo airspace, both nations going to employ similar assets which doesn’t give them any invicible form of advantage while operating on either airspace.
ZOOMQuadbike, as usual you steer the aviation debate to the poltical and try to (rather unskillfully) avoid the issue.
Irrespectiveo strategy and aims of India and Pakistan during Kargil, the point myself and Insig were making was that IAF aircraft were shot down. Not by PAF but by MANPADS by our army.
If attacking a target that is in the highest mountain peaks in the world, how will IAF avoid such losses again?
You may actually get through, but the losses would be horrendous I imagine.
As for SU-30MKIs, PAF F-16s will be waiting….
Let’s define the irony, you seems to have forgotten rest part of the kargil conflict. IAF simply mandated its fighter jets to increase their ceiling to avoid shorter range manpads and then only you are asking as How IAF will avoid such losses again?
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