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  • in reply to: Your All-Time Favourite FlyPast Article? #2119127
    Shorty01
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    Hhhmmm, there are a lot of choices. I think mine is an article in the second edition (1983, with a plan view of a p38 on the front cover). This was on aircraft wrecks in the pacific. The pictures in the colour centre spread fascinated me as to what was still out there undisturbed. I’m still fascinated 20 years later.

    in reply to: General Discussion #389731
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    What kind of animal do you call a moggie that has just eaten a whole Mallard ?
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    A Duckfilledfattiepuss

    ……sorry….I’ll go away now…

    in reply to: Darn pesky cats ! #1971293
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    What kind of animal do you call a moggie that has just eaten a whole Mallard ?
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    A Duckfilledfattiepuss

    ……sorry….I’ll go away now…

    in reply to: aerobatics in warbirds and vintage jets #2120188
    Shorty01
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    That’s ok Willow, I was just being lazy.

    I just dug out the pilots notes for the Mustang III (RAF notes) that I previously mention, A.P.2025G-P.N. They state on Page 26 under Aerobatics & page 30 under Flying limitations, that “rolls of any sort should only be practised above 10,000 ft”. Yikes

    in reply to: aerobatics in warbirds and vintage jets #2120212
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    There we go Willow, I mod’ed the post to mention the cam failure.

    in reply to: aerobatics in warbirds and vintage jets #2120264
    Shorty01
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    Moggy C,

    How about a camera in the cockpit looking at the instruments ?

    Digby,

    Having seen a fatal airshow accident & a non fatal one I do not wish to see any others. I don’t know if our ramblings here will have any influence but maybe, just maybe someone who is more deeply involved would get wind of an idea expressed & prevent an accident. There are members of the warbird fraternity who do post here. The whole philosophy of aviation safety relys on frankness of opinion & not ignoring the smallest detail. The airlines use CHIRPS (Confidential Human Incident Reporting System) to allow crews to anonomously report their **** ups. One safety poster I saw in a hangar said “break the chain”, i.e. all accidents tend to be the sum of events, remove one event to break the chain & the accident won’t happen. Having found myself nearly doing something I saw an experienced display pilot do at the Paris airshow I believe there is a good reason to discuss these things as long as they are done sensitively.

    I certainly think currency on type is a major problem. I have only ever flown a couple of types of aircraft (gliders) solo so I can’t comment on the difference from a fast jet & a performance warbird from experience. However, I do mess about with cars & one of mine in particular I treat with caution if I haven’t driven it for a while. It’s not that difficult, but it needs the correct handling near the limit & if you’ve lost the “touch” because you have been away from it for a while it could get messy. I certainly wouldn’t be throwing it around at the limit with only 5 hours in 12 months practice. Think about the bit in the BofB film where the CO looks appalled when he asks how much time the new pilots have on spits. They answer 10 & 12 hours respectively, double what is mentioned here, but thought of as way low at the time. Only a film, but representitive of a real situation where time on type counts. OK, so airshow pilots won’t be facing hordes of malicious cabbage crates coming over the horizon, but I hope it makes my point. I suppose more practice is what I’m angling for, though this will mean an increase in prices. However, currency isn’t always a guarantee, I assume the RAF Phantom display crew that were lost at Abingdon in the late eighties were very experienced on type.

    What needs to be looked at is accidents per hours flown for warbirds. I remember at the end of the eighties being told that on average the RAF expected to lose seven pilots/aircrew a year. I know that display flying warbirds is not the same as hacking it down a Welsh valley at 500 knots in a downpour, but shouldn’t we understand that all aircraft are unforgiving of errors at low level.

    Random thoughts,

    Do warbird operators/airshow display teams have get togethers to discuss this sort of thing other than pre show briefings? If not, should they ?

    Should there be a minimum level of hours on type set regardless of overall experience ?

    How much practice do the BBMF (only one aircraft “broken”, as a result of a camshaft failure, in 30 years) get compared to other outfits ?

    At least if the routines are made simpler/slower I might get some better pics.

    in reply to: One freaky photo… #642089
    Shorty01
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    Minidoh has a point, the roads & the beach hut look out of scale, or is it REALLY low and that blowing sand is an effect of the engines ?

    in reply to: CI MD-11 Crash #642094
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    I believe this was a hard landing followed by WING separation. Evidently this was not the first time this had happened to an MD11 under similar circumstances, though I suppose if you fly anything into the ground hard enough it will break. Didn’t someone punch the main gear through the wing of an RAF tristar a few years back when they landed “a bit high” ?

    in reply to: General Discussion #389847
    Shorty01
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    If you like moggies & warbirds go to Warbird Bobs at, unsurprisingly enough

    http://www.warbirdbob.com/

    Here’s a photo from the website of bob trying out the co-pilots position on a b-17.

    in reply to: Darn pesky cats ! #1971391
    Shorty01
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    If you like moggies & warbirds go to Warbird Bobs at, unsurprisingly enough

    http://www.warbirdbob.com/

    Here’s a photo from the website of bob trying out the co-pilots position on a b-17.

    in reply to: aerobatics in warbirds and vintage jets #2120407
    Shorty01
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    As in all things in life I think moderation is the answer here. People here are talking about sticking to flat displays & others are defending the more extreme end of the spectrum. Can”t we come up with something in between ?

    One point though, a while ago I bought a copy of the reproduced pilots notes on the Mustang. Having seen Candyman Moose (it was a while ago) charge around at low level I was somewhat shocked to see the minimum recommended height in the notes for a roll was something like several thousand feet, maybe even as much as 12,000. I shall check tonight. It did raise the question in my mind if, warbirds are so twitchy as to require over 2 miles of height to recover, if they “throw a wobbly” how safe are low level aerobatics ?

    The Mossie crash was caused by incorrectly reassembled carbs which caused the engines to cut under negative G. The Venturi mod that was meant to correct this problem from earlier merlins was not positioned correctly, therefore pilot skill could not have saved it. To avoid this maybe there should be a test area near the show where display aircraft were put through a brief check out at altitude before descending for the display or at least perform some manoeuvres that covered the display flight regime in transit to the show.

    An afterthought: If I recall the Rolls Royce Spitfire crash at Woodford was caused by lack of airspeed/boost setting at the top of the loop. Therefore, FOR AIRSHOWS maybe we could have some form of ASI, Altitude, engine parameter telemetry relayed to a “pit team” who acted as back up. A radio a caution could be given should any of the parameters approved during the preshow display approval be transgressed. The Airshow pilot has a lot to monitor, height, airspeed, altitude & crowdline, all with tight tolerances, add to this Galdri’s point that they may not be fully current & the margin for error is small. 99.9999 % of the time they get it right, however with such tight tolerances & valuable lives + airframes maybe this would help.

    in reply to: Underwater Aircraft #2120478
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    Having had a look at R-Robert at Brooklands I have to agree with Whitley_Project on the state of it’s geodectics. They are very pitted.

    WRT salt water wrecks, as well as nets, large currents tend to speed the deterioration process. If a solid ship can fall apart in 50 years, then a light aluminium airframe is not going to put up much resistance.

    http://www.divernet.com & http://www.warbirdalley.com are good sources of links & info.

    Does anyone know the current status of the Devastator ? The last I read they had put a sacrifical anode on it to try to slow corrossion whilst they worked out what to do next after retrieving the cockpit canopy frame for analysis.

    http://www.pacificwrecks.com is a good source of photos of sunken aircraft. Whilst the returning to flight of US Navy Daunlesses pulled out of Lake Michigan after missing the USS Wolverine are well documented, does anyone know of any salt water wrecks that have taken to the air again ?

    in reply to: EXTINCTION? Which types and when. #2121650
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    I’m impressed with the difference 17 years can make !

    Hhmm, mutter Hendon Halifax, mutter…….

    Have you got any more pics Mark12 ?

    in reply to: EXTINCTION? Which types and when. #2121728
    Shorty01
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    Right, here we go, try

    http://www.canadianflight.org/collect/col_11.htm

    A pic I blagged off their website is below.

    in reply to: EXTINCTION? Which types and when. #2121731
    Shorty01
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    Marauder wrote

    The Canadian Musuem of Flight pulled the basically intact remains of P5436 out of a lake in the eighties – don’t know where they’re up to with it.

    There is a website on this somewhere. The last time I looked they had nearly finished it. Most impressive. I”ll see if I can find it.

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