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October 7, 2005 at 8:27 pm in reply to: B17 #1360339

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When I finished, my trousers were able to stand erect with no help from me. My flight cap was not recognizable as tan chino color, it was mostly black.

Is this meaning you didn’t wash them for all that time? :rolleyes:

September 25, 2005 at 10:28 pm in reply to: B17 #1378391

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I would find relief using the bomb bay

I suppose you used bomb-bay only for big need. Probably it wouldn’t be useful for small one due wind draft. For small need did you have some kind of tubes such boys in P-47 for example?

September 25, 2005 at 11:42 am in reply to: B17 #1379193

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Mr. Horowitz it was quite a long flight. I hope you had some kind of auto-pilot on your big bird (and toillete or WC)

😉 😀

September 20, 2005 at 10:23 pm in reply to: Need help about aircraft losses #1384097

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Bigmal can you add something else on the matter? Can you find anything familiar in this SAAF Beaufighter list?

September 20, 2005 at 10:17 pm in reply to: B17 #1384101

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Tnx Mr. Horowitz for additional info. That helps me find some connections with your mission that day and losses from your unit which occurred over ex-Yugoslav soil.

On the January 7th, 1944 wasn’t lost any bomber but two “little friends” P-38 wasn’t so lucky. First was from 71st FS/1st FG flown by Major Hanes Horace during escort to Weiner Neustadt. He was shot-down by Bf 109s, b/o south of the city Maribor (Slovenia) and RTD to Italy.
Second P-38 lost on that day from 94th FS/1st FG flown by Lt. Meredith was hit by flak and crash-landed somewhere in Yugoslavia.

Among that two B-17 from your 348th BS/99th BG was reported to be lost over Croatia. First one crashed near Koprivnica 16.7.1944 during mission to Vienna due mechanical failure. That was B-17G-35-VE serial 42-97909 flown by pilot Richard George (1st mission). All 10 crewmembers evaded .
Second B-17G-85-BO serial 43-38418 named ‘Glittering Gal’ was lost 20.3.1945. After mission to Vienna, they was returning over Austro-Yugoslav border and hit by flak on 18.000 ft. Engines 3 & 4 set on fire, crew b/o, a/c exploded in mid air over Krizevci. All ten crewmembers including pilot Richard Urban was POW by Ustachi (local Axis forces).

If you have anything to add I would be very grateful but tnx anyway.

All the best
JeT

September 19, 2005 at 8:33 pm in reply to: B17 #1385502

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Mr. Horowitz,

Thank you for answering although I hoped little bit more information than I get. Your obvious luck was that you never become familiar with Vis Island. Also I suppose you do not remember any fighter encounters over Yugoslavia since it was secondary battlefield for the Allied and Axis forces since 1944. Most of losses in area happened due flak activity.

I believe mission to Maribor (Slovenia) which you mentioned most probably happened on November 7th, 1944. On that day two B-17G-50-DL from 346th BS and 347th BS of 99th BG reported to be lost in the area. First one 44-6408 was shot down most probably by flak over Maribor, while second 44-6430 was hit by flak and exploded in midair over Slovenske Gorice. Third B-17G-50-DL (44-6263) from 353th BS/301st BG crashed near Krapina (Croatia). If you can confirm that date from your Flight Book it would be very nice.

Also I could bring you other B-17 losses over ex-Yu soil if you say to me number of BS you was enlisted.

Best regards
JeT

P.S. Only lost B-17G-30-DL (42-38089) in the area from 2nd BG/49th BS happened on 16.6.1944. After mission to Vienna pilot Shelby Vaughn lost two engines and crashed in Djurdjevac area (Croatia). That was their 38 mission and all ten crewmembers evaded.

September 19, 2005 at 3:41 pm in reply to: Merlins Over Malta Departure update! #1385817

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If the weather is poor, I suppose a diversion to Vis in Croatia is out of the question. 😉 🙂

Mark

Of course 🙂 The grape field on Vis Island where the emergency airstrip was constructed, was converted back to its former use after the 2nd World War.

So you can land, but not take off so soon again 😀

😎

P.S. Mark are you going to Malta too?

September 19, 2005 at 10:14 am in reply to: Need help about aircraft losses #1386023

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This is list of lost SAAF Beaufighters over Yugoslavia. Maybe it help to someone.

Date * Type * Reg.No. * Unit * Code * Crew * Location

13.8.1944 * Beaufighter X * LZ469 * No 16 Sqn SAAF * E * Lt Cruishank | Lt Campbell * Porec, Croatia

13.8.1944 Beaufighter X LZ246 No 16 Sqn SAAF Z Lt/Col Loock, P | Lt Pettet, G Porec, Croatia

14.8.1944 Beaufighter No 19 Sqn SAAF W Cmdr Blackburn; F/S Boffin Prvic Island, Croatia

17.8.1944 Beaufighter X LZ336 No 16 Sqn SAAF K Lt G.H.W. Downer | Lt J.V. Hall Rogoznica, Croatia

18.8.1944 Beaufighter No 19 Sqn SAAF Gr/Capt Powell | F/O Reid Banja Luka, BiH

18.8.1944 Beaufighter No 19 Sqn SAAF F/Sgt Scott | F/Sgt McDermott Banja Luka, BiH

18.8.1944 Beaufighter JL910( ???) No 19 Sqn SAAF S F/O Nielsen | F/Sgt Gants Yugoslavia

21.8.1944 Beaufighter X LZ375 No 16 Sqn SAAF W Lt G.R. Russell | Lt C.W. Stanbury Zadvarje, Croatia

30.8.1944 Beaufighter X JM415 No 16 Sqn SAAF U Lt D.K. Stewart | Lt T.W. Pumphrett Zirje island, Croatia

17.9.1944 Beaufighter NV215 No 19 Sqn SAAF B P/O Mason | P/O Peacey Valjevo, Serbia

10.10.1944 Beaufighter NT997 No 19 Sqn SAAF A F/Lt Vance | Lt Medalie Senj, Croatia

24.10.1944 Beaufighter X No 19 Sqn SAAF F Maj Tilley, D.P. | W/O Powell, A Donja Bacuga, Yugoslavia

31.10.1944 Beaufighter No 19 Sqn SAAF Lt Henry | W/O Thomas Adriatic sea, Croatia

5.1.1945 Beaufighter X NV151 No 16 Sqn SAAF H Lt Lardner | Lt Boughey Cres Island, Croatia

15.1.1945 Beaufighter X No 19 Sqn SAAF Y Lt Campbell | F/O Davies Kornati Islands, Croatia

September 19, 2005 at 9:37 am in reply to: Need help about aircraft losses #1386163

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Bigmal,

Thank you for that info but could you repair link to the image or send it to my mail [email]jet_manga@yahoo.com[/email]

If you send it I could make it visible in the topic. Tnx once more for your contribution.

September 19, 2005 at 9:22 am in reply to: B17 #1386170

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This post is just to bring B-17 topic back on page1 so Mr. Horowitz could see my question.

😀

September 17, 2005 at 10:03 pm in reply to: B17 #1387423

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Sir,

After mentioning the Alps I wonder did you have any bomb-runs over Yugoslavia and did you ever fly over that territory? Do you have some knowledge or memories about Vis Island? Maybe you will remember something if you check following links

http://www.divernet.com/wrecks/0804croatia.shtml
http://www.yuairwar.com/novj.asp

Best regards
JeT

September 17, 2005 at 9:31 pm in reply to: I found this lurking in the back of… #1387440

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I thought this post was about things lurking in hangars, where did they go to :dev2:

You are right. It is time to finish this topic about Croatian oldtimers and Spitfires…

😎

September 14, 2005 at 7:21 pm in reply to: I found this lurking in the back of… #1391969

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Maybe next year you could repaint Spitfire in this colours and organise route trough ex-Yugoslavia 😀

:diablo:

September 13, 2005 at 9:57 pm in reply to: I found this lurking in the back of… #1394319

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Merlins Over Malta Flight Update

Wednesday 14th September Depart Duxford at 15:10 (local time) for Jersey

Thursday 15th September Jersey International Air Show

Friday 16th September Depart Jersey for Chateauroux (France) and onto Valence (France)

Saturday 17th September Depart Valence for Genoa (Italy) and onto Ciampino (Italy)

Sunday 18th September Depart Ciampino for Salerno (Italy) and onto Reggio Di Calabria (Italy)

Thursday 22nd September Depart Reggio Di Calabria to arrive in Malta through Grand Harbour at 18:00 (local time)

This page will be updated with daily reports of the Merlins Over Malta Spitfire and Hurricanes flight to Malta.

The above time table may change due to weather and aircraft serviceability. Any changes will be announced here. http://www.merlinsovermalta.com/flight/

September 13, 2005 at 9:52 pm in reply to: I found this lurking in the back of… #1394327

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That’s the one 😀

Tnx
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