Hi Walshlee
In regards to the latest version of events that day I feel it a little hard to believe that Sheppard took off 30 min later and followed Copping in the wrong direction, why?, even if he was travelling twice as fast (say 150 and 300 mph?) it would still take 30 min to overtake Copping and Sheppards plane was damaged too, you would need to know a very accurate bearing to follow to catch up to someone at this distance – even 1 degree out would put you a long way apart at that range, just seems dodgy to me but I wasn’t there so anything could have happened.
Your account also contains the phrase “I recall….” who is it that recalls this incident, can you let us know if it was a pilot, ground crew etc and their name.
Regards
Paul
I loved this comment on the daily mail article the most,
“When he knew the aircraft wasn’t gpoing to make it to an airfield, he must still have been a few thousand feet up; so he could see a lot of desert, and probably some villages / oases. At 2,000 feet up you can see for some 60 miles. Wonder why he doidn’t try and glide his machine to within a few miles of one of these locations, so he could have walked to safety – Batman, Newport, Shropshire, 10/5/2012 17:27”
So all we need to do to find the pilot is wander over to the nearest oasis and pry him away from his harem where he has been living in luxury for the last 70 years… What a laugh.
Paul
I loved this comment on the daily mail article the most,
“When he knew the aircraft wasn’t gpoing to make it to an airfield, he must still have been a few thousand feet up; so he could see a lot of desert, and probably some villages / oases. At 2,000 feet up you can see for some 60 miles. Wonder why he doidn’t try and glide his machine to within a few miles of one of these locations, so he could have walked to safety – Batman, Newport, Shropshire, 10/5/2012 17:27”
So all we need to do to find the pilot is wander over to the nearest oasis and pry him away from his harem where he has been living in luxury for the last 70 years… What a laugh.
Paul
Hi Mark (shepsair)
Can you confirm that the RAFM was ‘on the case’ before all of this internet activity or whether the publicity generated here and on other websites has increased their interest in this particular aircraft.
Thanks Paul
Free is definitely not too expensive however I would like an actual real book, will look a bit more.
Paul
This thread has interested me enough to look up copies of both ‘Kittyhawk Pilot’ and ‘Some of our Victories’ however both seem very expensive.
Would it be appropriate for the mods to remove the crash co-ordinates from AWOTs post? I realise lots of people already know where it is but surely limiting that as much as possible may protect the airframe in a very small way, there is not much else useful that anyone on here can do at this stage.
Paul
Long thread -please read all posts carefully
G’day
I think you guys should stop worrying about the missing ‘dataplate’, Ash has already told us that it is the canopy operating placard yet people still keep thinking it is the real dataplate.
Buz has also given us the exact locations to look for the aircraft serial number, perhaps someone who is in contact with the Polish geologists can ask them to look in the correct place and put everyone out of their misery as it appears they may still be in the general area and are able to get there every now and then. I also doubt the Poles would have created any of the damage, they are probably even more pi55ed off than us that their discovery is being treated this way, and they can see all of the first hand evidence.
Lastly, the latest set of photos clearly show an internal detonation in the fuselage which supports previous speculation that the IFF was possibly destroyed before the pilot abandoned the aircraft.
Paul
What has been unscrewed from that tube in the cockpit?
Is it just me or is there a pair of breasts on the lower right wing? Probably my mind playing tricks but it looks like the painter has a sense of humour.
Paul
Bruce
To my eye the battery dismantling appears to be a recent occurrence (after it was found) as opposed to something from 70 years ago, maybe the army guys who removed the ammo couldn’t read English very well and thought they were flares or something – who knows? The cardboard looks to be in too good condition with the writing clearly visible, I can’t imagine this to have been ourside for that long.
Paul
If you were coming in for a belly landing would you leave power on or cut it at the last moment? Perhaps he was trying to land on the wheels thinking he could get it off again.
There were some parts on that Jag that I could have used or at least found good homes for, not much good to me now though.
Hi Inkworm, didn’t you mean ‘the wonderful Jaguar’?
Has anyone else noticed that in the recently posted photos the rear port canopy perspex is intact whereas in the first ‘hatch’ photo it had been broken and the pieces fallen behind each other? Also it appears to me that the battery has been deliberately ripped open and the individual cells ripped out, doesn’t bode well in my mind.
Paul
Well have gone out on a limb way back on Page 1 to say it was real I am very glad it has been confirmed although it is very saddening to see how it is being treated, people walking all over it, yanking at parts, carrying bits off.
On the positive side hopefully the internet attention it has received on all of the forums has enabled the right people to see it and for it to become recovered quicker, the longer it stays out there now that it is known about the less of it will remain.
Paul