…but I’d rather have £20 in my pocket than nothing (and there have been months when that’s been the case!).

How does the old saying go “look after the pennies and the pounds look after themselves”? Tell the guys from the Lightning Preservation Group that the £1500 from their QRA day doesn’t help towards the £30000 for the concrete for the QRA shed floor!! They may be small amounts, but it’s money you don’t have to borrow or beg from folk and it may pay a small bill but it’s a bill paid.

With all these folk with commercial ‘expertise’ looking in here and offering opinions on the ‘right way to run things’ it’s a wonder that any preservation project has problems raising cash!!! :confused:

Although it has to be said that many of the aforementioned aviation groups are in trouble financially precisely because they wont take advice.

Nope – see my post above, he was involved with the R100 (the ‘capitalist ship’ )which was built by Vickers – not the R101 which was built by the government – ‘the socialist ship’

TT

Oh Ben! one digit out; you are a hard taskmaster!

That and the fact that “Titanic” is essentialy one on one i.e one liner one iceberg ,and the details of individual stories just aren’t there, thus it lends itself to a fictional make over, whereas “Pearl” being an act of war should be accurate, if only for posterity.

Nearly ! a few gliches to iron ou….

Only 11,998 now.

Wasn’t Barnes Wallis involved in the R101? geodetics were just too time consuming to produce ,but one has to remember that in the 30’s the RAF were still using biplane fighters and the Wimpy was stronger than anything other than stressed metal skin which was new technology at that time. I think the bouncing bomb idea was short lived because almost every thing other than a dam would be shooting at you with everything they had ,i.e battle ships, and whilst the concept was good ,can you imagine saying ,steady……..steady…….steady in that situation! Bomb delivery also required expert flying and aiming as well and 617 were the elite. Theres about as much in common with a modern jet engine and one of Whittles engines ,as a Dyson and a Hoover but to most people, a jets a jet, and a Hoovers a Hoover. (irespective of whether Hoover actualy invented the thing or not!)

Sorry, cant see how a question can be a statement; you did see the question mark didn’t you? (there it is again) and whilst we are correcting each other ,I never said that Marshall’s should work for nothing , I said that a charitable donation is tax deductable (at both ends i.e gift aid) nor that it should be done because it is a Vulcan or that it was acceptable for the Dr to be paid for his efforts. My view is that Marshall’s are the only ones that can save the project , and that in the same way that ordinary mortals give up their free time ,and some pass over the opportunity to profit from their association with various events and charities, big business can and does provide services at cost and in some cases, subsidize part of or else the whole. Finally you chose to interpret my remarks in a way that enabled you to take the the moral high ground,but as a man noted for his sarcasm I feel that you can “dish it out” but…. Oh and Snapper,aren’t you falling to the same trap that you accuse me of, i.e making assumptions as to someones benevolent status? after all ,you don’t know me either do you? Btw thanks for educating me as to what world I live in ,I’ll bear that in mind the next time I dip into my endlessly deep pockets.

Whilst anything is possible, I think that an air lift will prove impractical, as previously stated anywhere it would be taken must have enough runway for it to takeoff, or else it would have to be air lifted (and disassembled)all over again ,and said airfield would need a large hangar ,which unfortunately would have to comply with HSE regulations; i.e fire exits ,fire doors ,toilets, showers, rest rooms (endless list). I think probably Vulcan 903 knows more about this than he’s prepared to say at this time, and that this chapter has to finish (as it surely must) ,in order that a new one can start. The key to the problem (not the cause) in my view is the main contractor; Bruce asked why should they work for less than the full rate, and I’d say “because they can “, there are many people out there that do a lot for charity (and don’t like to mention it) even big business can be philanphropic (and charitable donations are tax deductable!) it will do Marshall’s no harm what so ever to be part of a success story ,or for that matter anybody else.