Exactly, the statement is politician speak for saying the exclusion zone is not a limiting factor and that the UK felt free to attack targets outside it. However since 1982 many people have claimed that the exclusion zone was some sort of self imposed limitiation of operations by the UK. Quite wrong.
The argument over a single or two platform solution is one of those that is an eternal debate I guess:) The NH90 is clearly more capable than a Lynx, it is a superb machine. There is also a good argument for a high low mix too with the Lynx and EH101. Ultimately I’m guessing NH90 customers will be more than happy with their choice, as will the RN with their two platform decision:) Got to say though, the RAN S70’s are sharp looking machines, I got the Corgi 1/72 diecast and love it, it sits next to the equally sharp looking USCG HH60J:)
EH101, it may be bigger than the NH90 but the RN can accomodate it on many of it’s vessels and it is a very capable machine. Combine it with the Lynx for a lighter heli and I think the RN have a pretty good mix, as good as any alternatives anyway.
Good news for the UK, good news for the F35 program too. A lot of other countries have been sitting on the fence as the UK argued for intellectual access rights, if the UK had failed to get access rights I think quite a few other countries would have looked at the alternatives.
its all down to one thing…. religion.. cant we just ban it worldwide and live together and respect one another.. we are all as bad as one another, lets just all chill out and talk… as if thats going to happen. i am sorry to say its in our blood… human beings have to fight each other .. is just part of our nature,. this is just the next chaptor. take a look through history. π
An admirable sentiment, and one I share to an extent although I have no desire to ban religeon, just keep it in the private domain and out of official policy, but sadly there are enough extremists on all sides to fan the flames of intolerance.
its all down to one thing…. religion.. cant we just ban it worldwide and live together and respect one another.. we are all as bad as one another, lets just all chill out and talk… as if thats going to happen. i am sorry to say its in our blood… human beings have to fight each other .. is just part of our nature,. this is just the next chaptor. take a look through history. π
An admirable sentiment, and one I share to an extent although I have no desire to ban religeon, just keep it in the private domain and out of official policy, but sadly there are enough extremists on all sides to fan the flames of intolerance.
This thread is a good example of several different issues being confused with the result that people are blaming certain regulations for stuff that has nothing to do with those regulations.
On a wider note, one of the reasons i still enjoy living in the UK is that we tend to be a reasonably tolerant and open minded people with a live and let live attitude to most things, to me that makes the shambolic roads, mediocre public transport, government incompetence in how they spend our money etc. bearable as I enjoy the freedom we have here. I can say I believe religeon is a load of hocus pocus (which I do) just as anybody is free to believe in any religeon, we can disagree over politics, the arts and anything else. However, sometimes I feel the tabloid press, egged on by the sort of dimmock cretins who can’t differentiate between paedophile and paediatrician, are trying to take the country back to the dark ages. Sad.
This thread is a good example of several different issues being confused with the result that people are blaming certain regulations for stuff that has nothing to do with those regulations.
On a wider note, one of the reasons i still enjoy living in the UK is that we tend to be a reasonably tolerant and open minded people with a live and let live attitude to most things, to me that makes the shambolic roads, mediocre public transport, government incompetence in how they spend our money etc. bearable as I enjoy the freedom we have here. I can say I believe religeon is a load of hocus pocus (which I do) just as anybody is free to believe in any religeon, we can disagree over politics, the arts and anything else. However, sometimes I feel the tabloid press, egged on by the sort of dimmock cretins who can’t differentiate between paedophile and paediatrician, are trying to take the country back to the dark ages. Sad.
A few days ago at work, I did some soldering in an office building. Before I started, I was required to fill out a hot works document.The area where I had to work was duly cordoned off, and a large ” DANGER ” warning sign was put up next to me. Finally 2 Fire extinguishers were placed in my vicinity, as a precaution. Just because I had to solder a few plug connectors onto some wires.
I can remember the days, when none of this would have been required, all this health and safety paraphernalia, certainly made me feel stressed. π π
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And that is an excellent example of somebody in your safety department who has not bothered reading HSE guidelines or is too lazy too, so has brought in blanket measures and blamed safety legislation. This is exactly the sort of stuff getting safety a bad name, but it is NOT health and safety law or the HSE responsible for stuff like that. I work in possibly the most tightly regulated industry in the UK and soldering wires in an office would be classed as Category 2 work not needing a permit or hot work certificate as it is core skills work in a non hazardous area. If you are angry, get angry with your employer or whoever manages this client, not the HSE.
A few days ago at work, I did some soldering in an office building. Before I started, I was required to fill out a hot works document.The area where I had to work was duly cordoned off, and a large ” DANGER ” warning sign was put up next to me. Finally 2 Fire extinguishers were placed in my vicinity, as a precaution. Just because I had to solder a few plug connectors onto some wires.
I can remember the days, when none of this would have been required, all this health and safety paraphernalia, certainly made me feel stressed. π π
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And that is an excellent example of somebody in your safety department who has not bothered reading HSE guidelines or is too lazy too, so has brought in blanket measures and blamed safety legislation. This is exactly the sort of stuff getting safety a bad name, but it is NOT health and safety law or the HSE responsible for stuff like that. I work in possibly the most tightly regulated industry in the UK and soldering wires in an office would be classed as Category 2 work not needing a permit or hot work certificate as it is core skills work in a non hazardous area. If you are angry, get angry with your employer or whoever manages this client, not the HSE.
It probably is, and I wouldn’t be surprised if nobody in the MoD has thought about that. However, I’ve been involved in enough major structural work in the water to know that it’s no big deal to assemble large structures out of drydock. Indeed in the great ULCC boom of the 70’s a lot of builders saw this as the best way to get into the ULCC market, build in two halves and weld them together as there was a shortage of big building docks/slips.
You’re wasting your time Rob. Let’s face it, any aircraft with wings and an engine could be said to be a copy of something else, are all jet engines just copies of the work of Whittle and von Ohain? Yes in a very real sense but few would say every new jet engine is just a copy of somebody else. BAE have quite a long history of UAV development, so to say they’re copying Neuron is absurd.
You don’t actually need a drydock to assemble the mega blocks. Although it is easier and less problematic.
From the time indicated, any Argentine warships and Argentine naval auxiliaries found within this Zone will be treated as hostile and are liable to be attacked by British forces. This measure is without prejudice to the right of the United Kingdom to take whatever additional measures may be needed in exercise of itβs right of self-defence, under article 51 of the United Nations Charter
Italics mine.
Just the relevant passage, I can’t be bothered to copy the whole announcement, hope this helps.
The cost of an SSBN is in the deterrent component, not really the boat, the cost of an advanced SSN and a SSBN are not that different, including life cycle costs. The SSBN element of this Trident upgrade is estimated to be between 1/3 and 1/4 of total cost of the program, based on a Β£15 billion estimate that comes out at very similar to an Astute SSN. Also, there is building capacity, the UK has a very narrow industrial base for projects of this type, and a projected 7 SSN’s and 4 SSBN’s over the next two to three decades is probably all the UK could build anyway.