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  • in reply to: Merchant shipping #2043484
    Turbinia
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    Nice pics! I hear what you’re saying about box boats, I used to chat with guys managing big box boats in head office and they always seemed very pressured people, all work and no fun, and that’s just the superintendents 🙂 The margins are so low that anything that makes a difference to operating costs is a big big deal, even though the box boat fleet was huge (I guess you know how big Maersk-Sealand is) in many years our little handful of jack ups, semi-sub drilling rigs and FPSO’s was actually returning a significantly higher profit. Mind you, the engines on those things are impressive, I saw them lifting one of the engines for a big 6,600TEU boat into position in Odense once and it was VERY impressive, those things are real engines. I spent a lot of time of supply boats and AHTSS type vessels as a passenger going out to the fields and I always found those very impressive, small maybe but with some serious tech and I found the manouvering and DP systems very interesting.

    in reply to: Mounts bay LSD finishes sea trials #2043728
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    At one time the RFA vessels were basically just regular dry cargo ships and tankers, but they’re far removed from that now. I think economics will dictate building the hulls in Eastern Europe or possibly Asia (I imagine the Asians might also offer some face saving deal for our politicians if the contract was worth really going for) but I think it a little sad. The Wave class tankers have probably added to the pressure to outsource hull construction as they were expensive boats, and UK ship builders (like other Western/Northern European yards) just can’t compete on lower value contracts without major subsidy.

    in reply to: Mounts bay LSD finishes sea trials #2043844
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    I can imagine the hulls will be built in Asia or Eastern Europe and maybe fitted out in the UK, although given the politics that’d be a hard sell for the government to justify. In my last job we were getting a lot of steelwork done in places like Romania and China to be towed to places like Norway for fitting out for offshore drilling/production, it does save a lot of money. With regards the tankers, a small commercial parcel tanker adapted with RAS gear and possibly a heli-deck may make a lot more sense than trying to go down the one size fits all common hull route. I can see the attraction of a common platform, but for this type of vessel the extra costs of design and inherent compromises in working around such a common platform may well outweigh any advantages.

    in reply to: Pakistan Navy #2044053
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    Please explain “easilt”, this infers that a MiG21 can easily tackle a F15 or F16, inferring it is better.

    in reply to: Pakistan Navy #2044095
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    the F-16’s and F-15’s were also easilt tackled by Mig-21 bison. Yes the singapore F-16’s are not neutered.

    Explain please.

    in reply to: Pakistan Navy #2044102
    Turbinia
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    Is somebody here suggesting the MiG21 is better than F15 or F16? :confused:

    in reply to: Mounts bay LSD finishes sea trials #2044118
    Turbinia
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    Last I heard they wanted a common platform multi-role hull to provide a basis for replacing the rest of the RFA fleet (except I presume the Diligence), but when the funds are available is anybodies guess. Diligence could probably best be replaced in the same way she was aquired, buying an offshore industry DSV off the shelf.

    in reply to: Mounts bay LSD finishes sea trials #2044284
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    On the subject of the RFA, it still amazes me that when they’re building LSD’s and arming their vessels with CIWS and carrying military helicopters etc. they’re still considered civilian vessels on the merchant shipping register.

    in reply to: The 8000t "harrier carrier" concept? #2044286
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    “The Truth of the Wunderwaffe” by Igor Wittkowski, an excellent book all around if I may say.

    in reply to: Australian AWD revealed #2044290
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    Poor old Carlo Kopp, I’m sure somebody, somewhere loves him 😀 I always think we need people like that, just imagine the loss in juicy gossip and having a good laugh at demented ideas if him and his ilk were to vanish :diablo:
    Cost/capability is a big deal for all forces, and the law of diminishing returns has a cruel hold over military equipment, the further up the scale you go you start paying monumental sums for real improvement, improvement many users will never need or use anyway. I think in time the RN (and probably others) will have to accept either a mix of high capability destroyers/frigates in lower numbers with large OPV’s for patrolling the EEZ, smuggler interdiction, Police dutues etc. or face a surface fleet that’ll be far too small to come anywhere meeting the RN’s needs. What I think is false economy is the trend for very high capability corvettes that are not really an aweful lot cheaper than frigates with nothing like the military value, they seem to be the worst of both worlds IMO.

    in reply to: The 8000t "harrier carrier" concept? #2044457
    Turbinia
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    The KFT carriers discussed in Germany, principle dimensions,

    Displacement-3500T
    Lengh-101.6m
    Beam-17m
    Draught-4m
    Flight deck lengh-90m
    Air component-6 or 7 aircraft, probably Ju87
    No details on engines or speed in my source book. I’ll try and scan the plans in when I get time, there was no island, the wheelhouse was under the fwd. lip of the flight deck with a catapult at the fwd extremity of the flight deck.

    I really don’t know what these would have been useful for. The RN and USN had a genuine need of cheap, easy to replace CVE’s for convoy escort and supporting amphibious ops, but Germany had no deep sea trade to protect, was not in the amphibious assault game and no surface action groups really needing support after late 1943, and even if they did 6 or 7 Ju87’s wouldn’t be much of an air group. Can’t quite figure out why this idea was even discussed, the Navy expressed doubts that such a small ship could even operate as a carrier.

    in reply to: Australian AWD revealed #2044463
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    Will there be any money left after paying for those AMRAAM F111’s and F22’s? 😀
    I think going for a single hull design would make a lot of sense, there has been a lot of support in the UK for using a Type 45 derivative to replace some of the frigate force, probably combined with a cheaper corvette to make up numbers. Problem is the cost/capability balance and numbers.

    in reply to: The 8000t "harrier carrier" concept? #2044640
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    I’ll see if I can scan in an image, the ships I’m talking of were a new build proposal, not conversions, and were very small for carriers. The German Navy was never interested in them, but the SS expressed an interest and it seems at one point Himmler had ambitions on a naval counter part to the Waffen SS military units, something the Navy must have had nightmares over. By the time of the proposal German surface units were confined to Northern Norway and the Baltic unless they took huge risks, and the materials situation was too dire to support such a program and the SS dropped the idea, but it’s an interesting little piece of German naval ideas seldom remembered today.

    in reply to: The 8000t "harrier carrier" concept? #2044737
    Turbinia
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    If you’re into small carriers are you familiar with the proposal for micro-carriers for the WW2 German Navy? Air group would have been about 6 Ju87 bombers.

    in reply to: Mounts bay LSD finishes sea trials #2044752
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    A bigger dock would have been nice, but these are still a major capability improvement for the RFA and the UK amphibious capability. I don’t see the lack of a hangar as a big concern as in a major operation these boats will be part of a task group with aviation support vessels like HMS Ocean or the light carriers for helicopter maintenance and support.
    On the current Sir Galahad, the original LSL’s had a much better reputation in the RFA, there were some serious build quality issues with the new vessel.

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