I was on an oil rig boarded in Nigerian waters in 1999 (I think), not a very pleasant experience, they were just thugs with machetes, but still scary. Over the years I’ve taken a keen interest in the piracy problem, and when I was doing superintendency got all the commerical intelligence reports and assessments, the government reports plus the usual IMO and insurance society guidance, and on the whole the overwhelming majority of piracy is not well armed large gangs but small bands of thugs with small boats, and the large majority of them do everything they can to avoid contact with any sort of law enforcement agency, it is not just a question of whether they can take on a small OPV but also the knowledge that they are very much aware of the consequences if they try and destroy a Police, Coastguard or Naval vessel, they know full well that a frigate or destroyer would be on station with revenge on it’s mind. Pirates tend to be into piracy as it’s relatively safe and easy for them, ratchet up the inconvenience and threat of capture and there are other avenues for these people to practice their avarice, let’s face it the vast majority of piracy attacks get little more than a few of the crews personal effects and some petty cash from the masters safe, hardly like robbing fort knox. In the Caribbean the drug smugglers are very well organised and heavily armed and RFA tankers often chase them down with the help of embarked RN helicopters.
About these ships, in most countries there is a very real need for economical Coastguard/Police type vessels for patrolling the EEZ etc. and they need a cheap to buy, cheap to operate vessel with decent sea keeping and enough clout to chase thieving fishing boats, smugglers etc. Not glamorous, not exotic and unlikely to make any great reputations but needed and required to fill an important role all the same. For decades the RN has operated OPV’s with little more than a token armament, and USCG cutters aren’t that heavily armed.
Okay, from the posts so far, we can work out what changes need to be made:
Gun – probably something a bit larger, at least 35mm (Millenium gun) or 57mm
SSM – a few Harpoon missiles, and perhaps a Netfires box or two
SAM – some RAM missiles, and perhaps an ESSM system, preferably quad-packed in Mk41s
ASW – ability to carry a couple of torpedoes, and perhaps a lightweight sonar
If you’re gonna fit ASM and SAM capability, you’ll need the radar and combat management equipment to make it effective, it’ll cost a lot and the ship will grow in size and cost substantially, which will take the design far beyond what it is intended to be. There is a huge problem in most modern navies with rising costs and a lack of economical to build and operate Coastguard/Police type vessels.
I’m fully aware of modern piracy and have experience of it at the wrong end. Pirates may have small arms, they may have RPG’s, but seldom anything more, and modern full on warships are seldom armoured, and why would you need Harpoon, Exocet MM40, VLS SAM capability, ASW torpedos etc. or any of the other fancy weapons of some of the super corvettes to combat piracy? Most pirate gangs run at the first sign of professional naval units, and whilst a 76mm OTO might be useful, very few pirate gangs will take on a helicopter or a naval vessel, and you don’t need Harpoon or Excocet to sink a small boat with an outboard engine or converted fishing boat. Most piracy is crime of opportunity and deterrence is an effective weapon.
This is an interesting design, and given what many navies actually do (as compared to what some staff officers might aspire to do…) is an excellent proposal. For Policing the EEZ, law enforcement and anti-piracy, some support of ground operations and general patrol duties the weapons fit is probably adequate with space to upgrade and it should offer good operating costs meaning navies might be able to afford to actually keep the things at sea on station. Most of these super corvettes are actually being used in OPV style roles, don’t actually need most of their weapons for the duties they perform and are hugely expensive considering their utilisation.
The reason for selecting a rotating radar antenna (as in Horizon and Type 45) as opposed to the slab type SPY was to enable it to be mounted higher up to increase performance and retain good stability ( a problem if you mount the SPY the way Spain does on the F100). And these ships do have low radar signature technology, they’re as stealthy as any other warships of that size.
The two Castle class OPV’s do not have an embarked helicopter but have a full size heli deck and re-fueling facilities for supporting heli ops so I imagine the Clyde will be the same. Some of the earlier River class OPV’s have enough deck space for a small helicopter but the Clyde has a proper deck to support EH101 ops.
I think this is an excellent vessel, it should have good sea keeping qualities, it is more than adequate for general Coastguard/Police type duties and fisheries protection and the helicopter facilities give it long reach and potential to operate in roles beyond basic Policing duties. There does seem to be upgrade potential and it is an economical design, it is basically doing the same job as a lot of these vaunted high spec corvettes at a fraction of the cost.
That was the original program (sorry, the revised DDX program following the withdrawal of original DD21 funding) but the numbers now talked about are 7-12, with more and more people using the lower number, and there is a serious move to suggest the first two of the class are built as technology proving platforms for a more economical design to replace the whole DDX project.
I must admit that I’m of the same opinion, history is full of “cheap” programs to replace those considered too expensive which ultimately end up anything cheap and a lot less capable than hoped for, I fear we may be seeing this scenario play out with the F35 JSF. In a sense the irony is that the DDX is a excellent example of this as the DDX was meant to be a low cost, lower risk replacement for the DD21. Much of the high value part of the DDX is in the sensor and command and control suites, radar image reducing technology and combat systems, which would be the high cost parts of any replacement design so it’s hard to see the USN producing a design retaining most of the capability at a significant saving (if any), unless they accept a real reduction in capability I think the DDX is still the design to stick with.
The DDX will be a highly capable ship for sure, however the costs are putting a question mark against it. There seems to be serious proposals to use the lead vessels as proving platforms for a future destroyer design that will be cheaper to build.
Most modern ship designs use modular architecture, even in those designs not part of a shared platform approach a lot of the machinery and outfit is based on standardised modules.
A bit lively for sure, but the Castle boats seem to have coped OK, and really it’s no worse than the North Sea or Biscay, I spent a lot of time offshore in the North Sea and some of our supply boats, anchor handlers etc. looked to be doing eskimo rolls in winter they were rolling and pitching that heavily 🙂
These vessels seem pretty similar in concept and intended utilisation to the new Falklands patrol vessel, a growth derivative of the River class OPV with a heli deck intended for Coastguard type duties, fisheries protection, assisting SAR ops, Policing/security duties etc., not a front line warship. As such it seems a well found design, speed is less important than good sea keeping qualities in the area’s these vessels will operate in and armament really isn’t that important, for the roles they will perform a light cannon is more than adequate, even the 30mm callibre preferred by the RN with small arms is quite adequate. To me it really does seem that these types of vessel are ideal, well enough equipped for the job but pretty economical to buy and operate with new fancy extra’s that are basically a waste of money to look good on paper, to me they’re far more sensible designs than most of the high cost corvette type vessels becoming popular which cost an awful lot more and will be used for similar duties.
The UK SBS and Police tactical units do joint training ops on merchant vessels involving helicopters and fast raiders, usually any larger vessels stay over the horizon.
The BAM frigates would be classed as large OPV’s or Coastguard cutters in other navies, not to under play the importance of such vessels as they do a very important job, but they’tr not really frigates. The additional F100 is a big investment though.