The radial fires “around the clock”. With an uneven number of cylinders in each row it will “fire and skip” and the order for a nine cylinder single row radial is 1-3-5-7-9-2-4-6-8 in two revolutions. A radial with an even number of cylinders in each row will not be able to “fire and skip”.
A lot more in the old thread Technical Teaser.
Christer
There was a discussion of this topic over at the old 12 O’Clock High forum (over a yer ago, at least). If I remember correctly, there were many suggestions but the most plausible was the asymmetric supercharger, mounted on the port side. The induction manifold to the starboard cylinder bank was longer resulting in slightly lower charge pressure which was compensated by a slightly higer compression ratio.
Christer
If I remember correctly, the film and the filming was covered in Warbirds Worldwide. It was a series over several issues and there was a listing of participating aircraft. I’m short on time right now but if no one else provides an answer, I will dig out the information. Maybe JDK remembers which issues?
Christer
Far from it. There are fewer moving parts with a sleeve valve engine and a greater proportion of those parts are revolving in a constant direction rather than reciprocating like crazy, reducing wear, noise and the need for fiddly springs and such. Would you suggest Parsons should never have bothered with the steam turbine?? Improvements in materials gave the poppet valve a new lease of life but that doesn’t mean sleeve valves don’t fundamentally have more potential (or aren’t fundamentally simpler).
In an issue of Warbirds Worldwide, there was an article on the rebuild of different engines at Mike Nixon’s Vintage V12’s. There was a photograph of a Centaurus with the crank case covers removed. The drive train for the sleeve drive maked it look like a swiss watch churning out 2500HP. It didn’t look “fundamentally simpler”.
Christer
Originally Posted by Cees Broere
Napier
The H24 Napier Sabre had sleeve valves.
According to the book “Rolls-Royce Piston Aero Engines”:
The H24 Rolls Royce Eagle 22 had sleeve valves as did the X24 Exe. The V12 two stroke Crecy has been mentioned by another poster.
Christer
Okey,
I too offered to mail a sound file and got confused, thought you wanted it.
Christer
trumper,
if it was sent to me … 🙁 … it failed, I have nothing in my PM-inbox.
Christer
Here is one low sampled file:
http://www.aircentre.com.au/aircraft/warbirds/mustang/griffon.wav
Christer
Thanks anyway.
Be great if you could find the link.
I’ve been looking high and low but obviously not in the right place. I’m pretty sure that it is from MV293 at Legends. PM me with your E-mail addy and I’ll mail it!
Christer
I tried to upload a *wav file of a Spit 14 but it is too large (3.8 MB and the limit is 2.0 MB). I got it off the web but I can not find it right now.
Christer
Check your inbox!
Christer
I know of a guy in the US who bought a truck load of Griffon 57/58 stuff from Shackletons (I think). I’m not 100% sure that he followed through on the deal but if you are serious about it, I can PM his E-mail addy to you.
Christer
… that shouldn’t fly very often but only at airshows.
Isn’t that asking for trouble? Pilots will always fly the aircraft with a low level of current experience!
If a decision is taken to fly and display the aircraft, let the “assigned pilot” get some training “out of public view” to ensure safe displays. This will increase flight safety which limiting the flying hours will not. I can’t put any figures on it but 5-10 hours during 20-40 flights annually may be sensible as training (not counting display time).
I also believe that mixing a variety of complex aircraft, flying each “not very often but only at displays” is asking for trouble in the exreme. No matter how experienced the pilot is, in an extraordinary situation he/she will have to “think twice” before acting and that may be fractions of a second ill spent, due to low current experience.
If hundreds of thousands are spent on the rebuild but there is no funds left to let the “assigned pilot” stay current on the aircraft, then keep both on the ground. If there are funds for flight training “out of public view” then fly and display the aircraft. I believe that the cost for flying must be fairly low, compared to costs for the rebuild, insurance and the possible loss of the aircraft in an accident. A sensible budget for flying should have a high cost-benefit ratio.
Christer
Around 1685, Ljungbyhed was established as a military training ground. They spent the first 225 years waiting for the first aircraft which made the first flight there in 1910.
In 1911, Enoch Thulin started a civil flying school and in 1926, the Royal Swedish Airforce established Ljungbyhed as its central flying school. In 1997 (IIRC) it was relocated to Ängelholm but a branch named TFHS (training civil commercial pilots) is still in operation today.
Christer