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  • in reply to: Ok All Define rare #1398749
    Christer
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    Aren’t there two values attached to an aircraft?

    If someone finds an airframe that is considered fit for rebuild (almost anything today), then a purchase price has to be agreed on. The price reflects the condition of the project and the rarity/desirability.

    The cost for the rebuild depends somewhat on the condition of the project and what is/isn’t included in the purchase but more on the extent of the rebuild – from “basic” to “total”.

    If the purchase price and cost for rebuild is added, the REAL value of the aircraft is obvious, well, at least to the person who has depleted his/her bank account.

    When the aircraft is put on the market, it seems like the REAL value has little to do with the IMAGINARY value it attracts by potential buyers. It depends on who flew it in service, how many kills, desirability and so on.

    If two projects are in the same condition and are totally rebuilt to the same standards, then a Sea Fury would be financial suicide but a Fw190D could bring some profit.

    Lucky me that I’m not wealthy …… 😎 …… since I would probably commit financial suicide …… :rolleyes: …… and in order not to commit financial suicide, the type has to be rare/desirable!

    Christer

    in reply to: Packard vs. Rolls-Royce #1426009
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    In Warbirds WorldWide, issue #18, there is an article named Reinventing, not Fixing which discusses the differences.

    1) The engine was totally redrawn. Rolls-Royce drawings were in 1st angle of projection compared to the Packard drawings which were in 3rd angle of projection. This can be put down to the lack of international standards.

    2) Rolls-Royce had an apprentice system which trained the personnel to become skilled fitters. How tight a bolt should be fitted was done “on the feel”. Packards mass production lines didn’t allow this and they specified each nut and bolt on the drawings with the correct torque.

    3) Roll-Royce maintained parts interchangability between different marks which necessitated the use of adapters. When Packard redesigned the engine, they adapted it for the use of american accessories and completely broke the interchangability.

    4) Materials used in the engines were also to a non international standard. Packard had a hard time duplicating the nitriding steel for the crankshaft, a material superior to anything the americans had. On the other hand some of the aluminium castings were improved by developing an improved alloy.

    Only a few samples, the whole read in WW #18.

    Christer

    in reply to: Of Merlins and Spitfires #1379368
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    Many thanks for that Christer.

    Don’t suppose you have any data for the 500 series do you?

    You’re welcome …… 🙂 ……!

    Not much about the 500 series but in the context of the Merlin 724:

    Merlin 500/45:

    Military engine similar to Merlin 724. 1-stage 2-speed supercharger, 8.15:1 and 9.49:1. Weight 2,128 lb (965 kg). 1610 hp/3,000 rpm/take-off with 66.4 in (1 686 mm) +18 lb boost.

    Christer

    in reply to: Of Merlins and Spitfires #1380897
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    Btw, if anybody has a detailed power output data for the Merlin 35, I’d be more than happy to see it!

    This is what “Aircraft Engines Of The World” had to say (don’t remember which edition(s), I only have xerox copies of a few pages):

    Merlin 35 (in the context of Merlin 130, 140 series):

    De-rated engine similar to Merlin 130. 1,280 hp/3,000 rpm/take-off with 54.3 in. (1 381 mm) +12.0 lb boost; 1,245 hp/3,000 rpm/11,500 ft (3 050 m) and 1,060 hp/2,650 rpm/9,250 ft (2 800 m) military ratings; 755 hp/1,100 rpm/6,750 ft (2 050 m) cruising rating. 100/130 grade gasoline.

    and from another edition:

    Merlin 35 (in the context of Merlin 724):

    De-rated military engine. 1-speed supercharger, 8.59:1. Weight 1520 lb (690 kg). 1,280 hp/3,000 rpm/take-off with 12 lb boost.

    Christer

    in reply to: PS915 photo #1406902
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    You’re welcome …… 🙂 ……!

    Christer

    in reply to: PS915 photo #1407693
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    Here it is among others in different resolutions:

    BBMF Photo Gallery

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    in reply to: Question about Merlins #1789177
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    … and DB engines were normally hand-cranked …

    These engines had inertia starters, which means that a fly-wheel was spun to high revs and engaged via a clutch to start the engine. On early models, the inertia starter was hand-cranked but I believe that on later models it was electric with the option to hand-crank.

    The Merlin starter was direct hand-cranking.

    Christer

    in reply to: late model Spitfire query #1797941
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    470 mph was the never exceed speed. Above that speed the controls stiffened up quite a bit.

    The Mk.XVIII was actually a few mph slower than the MK.XIV due to its slightly higher weight.

    Christer

    in reply to: Swedish Spitfire restoration #1554506
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    I’m sure I saw a photo of this Spit in service in a book somewhere –

    It appears in Morgan/Shacklady, Spitfire The History – First Edition on page 462.

    Christer

    in reply to: VP441 – She flies #1559802
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    Thanks Mark, for the clarification!

    I just thought that mentioning Jeffrey Quills name but not Joseph “Mutt” Summers’ name, might leave those who don´t already know, believing that JQ actually made the first flight.

    Christer

    in reply to: VP441 – She flies #1560338
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    … I am convinced by Jeffrey Quill’s own account that it was on 6 March, not as popularly stated 5 March …

    It is possible that Jeffrey Quill did fly that day, to have entries in his log but he didn´t fly K5054, it was Joseph “Mutt” Summers, Chief Test Pilot at Vickers.

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    in reply to: Shackleton Props. #1561594
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    Hi Laurie!

    These old threads, with answers from good old uncle keithmac, may be informative:

    #1

    #2

    Hope it helps,
    Christer

    in reply to: VP441 – the hot end #1562096
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    Laurie,
    thanks a lot for Your time and trouble, I really appreciate it!

    That´s an interesting setup and it demonstrates that racing is not, as some people say, all about warbird and engine destruction. It actually helped get VP 441 in the air!

    Christer

    in reply to: VP441 – the hot end #1562570
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    Thanks guys, for the information!

    Rolls-Royce adapted the Griffon 65/66 reduction gearing to fit the Griffon 58 for the Spitfire Mk.XIX’s of the BBMF. It was said to be a rather expensive venture, prohibitively so for any private individual.
    This modification was, for obvious reasons, not on the agenda for VP 441.

    The BBMF modified the lower cowlings for the air intake duct to fit the supercharger intake of the single stage Griffon 58. I assume that this was either less expensive than adapting a Griffon 65/66 supercharger to fit the Griffon 58 or less complicated.

    If a Griffon 65 supercharger has been fitted to the Griffon 58 of VP 441, then the owner/team had other conciderations than the BBMF when that route was decided on.
    Mark’s comments indicate that the BBMF route was/is the obvious one.

    Christer

    in reply to: VP441 – the hot end #1564979
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    Thanks …… 🙂 …… !

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