Oracal:
We are all taught to feather a prop. The real trouble starts when they fail to.
I’m not joining the line of people telling others how to fly an aircraft they have only seen in pictures or film clips. My SLG (ASH 31 Mi) has a fixed pitch propeller and when shutting the engine down, if the speed is too high it doesn’t stop windmilling. After reducing the speed and the propeller has stopped windmilling, the sink rate is reduced considerably. Next, when in the correct (vertical) position, the propeller is retracted into the rear fuselage.
When performing a planned shut down, it is no problem maintaining the correct speed and the propeller automatically stops but if you loose power, the gut reaction may be to increase the speed which keeps the propeller windmilling. In that situation, the possibility to feather the propeller would stop it windmilling, right?
A stationary fixed pitch propeller still has the same frontal area which a featehered propeller does not but I speculate that the reduction of frontal area is not a large contribution towards a lower sink rate.
Try starting a stopped piston engine with a fixed pitch prop in the air by diving!
Exactly, I have seen (in pictures and film clips) that it requiers several people to manually rotate a large engine by the propeller and that force is extracted from the airflow when windmilling. When the propeller stops, that force is no longer extracted and that reduces the sink rate much more than a reduction of frontal area, right?
Add to that the fact that a seized engine with a prop that may not be feathered or cannot feather, will be worse than your pulling the airbrake fully out after a cable break at 200 ft and then trying a 180; it isn’t sensible.
As a glider pilot flying SLG’s (Self Launching Gliders), we learn that the important thing when the engine fails is to stop the propeller windmilling. That reduces the drag considerably (75%?). How much feathering a propeller further reduces the drag, I don’t know (25%?) but I believe that the main thing by feathering is to stop it windmilling.
On a seized engine with a stationary (not windmilling) propeller, if possible to feather, would it reduce the drag more than marginally?
The new post count never matches reality. The “chimp-factor” is very high!
Also, the “new post indicator” doesn’t work. I saw your response by accident a couple of days after you posted it but the indicator read “no new posts”.
Not much that works here anymore !
Hi Stuart,
This is not an ABBA song. The rebellious Magnus Uggla wrote a lot of songs intended to shock, mostly Swedes because I don’t think he ever wrote in English.
I tried to create a link but that didn’t work. I copy the adress to the Wiki-page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Uggla
(although you may not read this, for obvious reasons)
I’m sure he does read it. A Swedish song writer once wrote (translated from Swedish) the lyrics “What’s the point of killing oneself if one can’t hear the talk afterwards” !
jonathanwhite112 = spammer
minion89a seems to be a spammer!
I wonder if Key will spot it and remove the posts?
… aaaaaaaaaaaand today it’s back!
No popup (this far) today for me! Maybe nagging makes a difference or possibly because it’s Christmas? No matter what, have a Merry one, everyone but keep your distance!
I have opted out on several occasions but the popup reappears.
Now there’s a different popup appearing to annoy us. Why don’t they spend some time fixing the issues we ask them to fix, rather than finding new ways to get increasingly annoying?
It happens that I get kicked out but not on a weekly basis … … just randomly!
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I have opted out on several occasions but the popup reappears. For how long are they going to keep nagging?
… they did not have the patience to let ‘Key’ try and sort it out!
I’m patient but have given up waiting for a “mark all posts as read” button to relieve me of clicking on every bloody subject that is of no interest to me, just to make the “new post” notification go away!
I hope it did not cost them too much.
Well, I’m pretty sure it did. Noone in that business gets rich by being cheap!
slip and turn indicator
4-minutes turn – – I wouldn’t expect to find that “rate” in a Phantom. But then, how long it takes to do a “360” depends on the speed and G’s pulled, right?