RE: Iraq : who’s in?
<< I’ll answer your question GE, Pres Bush has only asked Russia to give Georgia some time and the chance to clean out the Chechyan terrorists from its soil for themselves… >>
GWB has said he will make no distinction between the terrorists and the nations who support terrorists. If Russia has got enough evidence, than Georgia should also be a “terrorist-supporting nation”. And like GWB you can’t limit the war on terrorism on just one or two men. I’m not saying Russia should invade Georgia, I’m only trying to get a better perspective on the “war on terrorism”.
<< I agree, Georgia is totally different and to suggest otherwise is totally ignorant. >>
Yes, totally different. But please keep one option open about that being ignorant.
<< The Georgian government openly opposes to the terrorists attacking Moscow. Not only that, they asked for US support in anti-terror trainings. Russian rationale was that some Georgian establishments, maybe local police, maybe a few politicians, maybe a mayor of a village is helping in secret. >>
Is there any evidence that Georgia is fighting (openly or secretly) those terrorists. Though being the most credible state in the Kaukasus, I still think there are lots of internal problems over there. What the president of Georgia says is not exactly what the generals are doing. Keep in mind, some of those Chechyans are probably family, and therefor feel very related.
<< That would include YOUR country GEFORCE. Saddam OPENLY defies all UNSC resolutions. >>
I think Saddam’s last concern is Belgium :7. But anyway, I do believe the UNSC should take its responsabilities (including France, Russia and China) IF, IF there’s evidence of SH using WMD. Bush only seems to give intelligence information to the Britons, but the other members haven’t seen much proof.
I do agree with the UNSC resolutions. But I don’t think the US is really thinking about letting in the inspectors without replacing SH. SH is an ‘evil’ man, no doubt about that, but there are more ‘evil’ men around, who seem to get “carte blanche” of the UNSC : just look at Zimbabwe, Rwanda …
<< but when YOUR leaders came back from NY after the US asked for a UNSC resolutions, you continued on to say something about how useless your leaders are. >>
I didn’t say they were useless (well some of them are actually but not the PM and the minister of foreign affairs), I said they were hypocrit. They made an agreement with France and Germany to do everything to prevent a military conflict (that would destabilise the region) and openly urge Saddam to let in the UNSCOM personel. Instead Europe was just bargaining with America like “OK you can have your war but then we want …” etc. Maybe it’s just because I’m too naive and had faith in politics and principles, boy, what a hangover. I hope Russia and China will make the right decission. Which one that is, I don’t know yet. First we got to see evidence.
Only Germany seems to be reluctant for a war, but I’m sure that will change after the elections this month, doesn’t matter who will win. The German public strongly opposes any military operation.
<< Why don’t you say, ok now the US plays by the rules, Saddam let the inspectors in. >>
That’s what I said. Saddam should let the inspectors in. Or otherwise military action is necessairy. But so far, Bush hus only adressed the General assembly saying that he wants to work through the UN. Good step, but what if Russia and China start whining and stuff, will Bush still go through the UN?
A war without the UN would give the west another bad image. Eventhough we may focus on those terrorists, I don’t think the local population in Iraq or A’stan understands the difference. Therefor I think we should first talk-the-talk (not with Saddam I mean, but within the UNSC) and than walk-the-walk.
<< NO, you simply make fun of your own leaders. >>
What I said was the bitter truth :-(.
<< Seems like it could’ve been Hitler…that’s exactly why JEWs got screwed over there… >>
Always the “Jews”. Did you know that Hitler also killed some 15 million other people like homosexuals, the handicapped, the gipsy’s, the “üntermensch” aka the Russians. And the reason why Hitler remained in power was because the UK and France were bargaining with the axis powers to overthrow the Soviet regime. At first the ‘allies’ supported Hitler and Mussolini, remember the treaty of Mûnchen?
<< Thank you…FINALLY…someone who understands where I’m coming from! >>
Aren’t the words “liberty, egalité and fraternité” written on the statue of liberty }>?
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