RE: I say forget about Iraq….it’s pointless

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-08-02 AT 07:12 AM (GMT)]Wrong, Phantom, O so wrong,

“You are so wrapped up in trying to prove that the EU is just as important as the US (and no, I’m not implying either way) when it comes to this issue or that issue that you feel putting down Bush is a good way to get some sort of satisfaction.”

I indeed think that Europe is equally as important as the US, and so is every country in this world. Maybe the US is number one when it comes to military, but there are other things the United States score really bad. Not going to discuss all of them, did it already a thousand times.

“You don’t vote for the man or have any say to who goes into office so why is it you keep on with your anti-Bush comments?”

This man influences everyone’s life, not just that of the Americans. Agree, I can’t vote for the US president, but for many people outside the US, who the president is is very decissive. Not just for the thousands of Iraqi’s who will die because of the US bombing, but also millions of investors in Europe and Asia who lose their money because of an ongoing trade-war between Japan+EU and the US, who’s protecting its economy by breaking international WTO-agreements.
So yes, I do care.

“I love to watch his speeches on TV as they inspire so much pride in me as an American. “

They also inspire me, afterwarts I always want to eat Pretzals and drink Whisky for some reason :7. No, really, his speeches are worthles flag-waving BS. It’s not like he’s saying, we’ll do this and this to prevent that …, he says “America was under attack bla bla bla” “democracy” bla bla bla “freedom” bla bla bla. I must have seen his ‘axis of evil’-speech a thousands of times. At first I found it hilarious, now I start getting frightened because of what this man is up to.

“As far as the news media goes I don’t pay attention to them. I actually hate the news media (whatever network you are referring to…although I find Fox is usually a bit better than CNN….yuck.)”

I watch BBC World, CNBC and CNN on a regular basis, we haven’t got Fox here in Europe. But sometimes it would be good for you to watch BBC or some other Euroepan news agency. Try to watch France 2 or ZDF for instance, this way you’ll learn some French and German. I do it every day. No news agency is correct, but a mixture of them might gave you a better insight. Ever read the China-Daily for instance?

“At one point you claimed that Sharon was the only one at fault therefore implying that Arafat is innocent. Then later you claim that both sides are at fault.”

I did? No, I said Arafat can’t help it that there are so many terrorists. he can’t do much about it when Israeli jets were attacking his infrastructure. Always paraphrase and memorise, my friend, don’t just think what you like to hear. Anyway, you excused afterwarts for your behaviour on that topic, which is good, but still, it shows that you don’t have much respect for these people.

“I really don’t think we should go in as much anymore. I agree something has to be done, but I think that resistance from inside Iraq should do it.”

Well, than guess who’s gonna be the next enemy of the US. Probably these resistance groups, namely the Kurds. The US will give them financial and military back-up to overthrow saddam’s regime. If they fail, they will be left alone. If they succeed, they might ask for an independent Kurdistan, upsetting Turkey, Russia and Israel, America’s most important allies in this war against terrorism. And guess who will be flying the next planes???

“We’d win for sure, but I’m sure there would be “

You would also have won in Vietnam if you continued the war. But the war was very impopular. Just wait untill the first coffins with the Stars and stripes on them return, and see how popular a war will be. You could be in it, Phantom.

“And I can’t say what or who will replace him. I dare say whoever it is would be an improvement over him (it’s hard to be much worse). “

An islamic fundamentalist, a communists, no wait even worse … my god, not a tree hugger. Not much choises you have, Phantom. Democracy, yeah right !!!

Try to learn som Iraqi history, Phantom. You’ll see that in the 80s, Iraq was the most prosperous, progressive and educated Arab country. Did you even know that Baghdadi’s were hated by other Arabs because their city used to be such a nice place? There was even a good health-care system, at least better when compared to the other Arab countries like SA, Syria and so on.

Than Saddam did some bad things, I agree, like gassing his ‘own’ people. In fact, in a modern definition, they could be considered to be ‘freedom fighters’ or either terrorists. Up to you, but isn’t that what you want, gas the terrorists? Well, exactly what SH did, ofcourse making more casualties among the popoulation. But don’t say the allied forces didn’t do this when they were bombing the Iraqi troops trying to flee. Ever seen pictures of the highway of Death? (http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-death.htm) Some B-52s dropping loads of bombs on Tanks, necessairy?

“The hard part is finding that group.”

Yeah, untill then, there shouldn’t be a war.

RE: I say forget about Iraq….it’s pointless

Where did I say I was an expert. My god, can’t remember that anymore. Read my posts, Phantom, read them.

I just knew I had to alert the webmaster back then when he was preaching his racist comments on Palestinians “I have no respect for them because they live in dumps”. That’s one sentence I will never forget, shows who you really are.

RE: User names

Don’t know why I picked such a stupid nick anyway (kinda boring) but the forum is so used of it, it’s too late to change it. At least it’s better than tree-hugger. :7

RE: I say forget about Iraq….it’s pointless

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-08-02 AT 09:05 PM (GMT)]bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla and so on.

Everyone called you a racist after the palestinian-thread, you even admitted it yourself. I think it was Pakistani or so who blamed you for a being redneck, not even me. Will look it up.

http://www.keymags.co.uk/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=2…

But you said one sentence which I can reply on “Your input as someone from Europe is rather irrelevant” That’s exactly what’s wrong with it. isolationism …

RE: I say forget about Iraq….it’s pointless

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-08-02 AT 08:23 PM (GMT)]I never called him a redneck, Mongu, only an idiot, but considering his latest posts, this can only be seen as constructive criticism :7. I’m just sick of his personnal attacks on me just because I happen to be more thoughtful and less supportive of the “evil Bush-administration” and their “wicked plans”.

BTW, if you’re such a tree-hater, Phantom, tell me how you are going to produce O2 out of CO2 again without the use of trees. Maybe you have a better way to make clorophyl? Trees are necessairy because they are the longs of mother earth, you don’t have to be a tree-hugger to admit this. Ohh wait, i’m the enemy, right. Boe-hoe, I’m scared! :7 :7

Don’t worry phantom, i don’t consider you to be the enemy, I just think of you as a braindead robot.